Rishi addressing the nation.

Ghastly Galloway had the right to make his vile winners speech without the Oil lot protesting

I also thought it a good speech, and I am no Tory or admirer of Sunak. We should no more hold being rich against him than we should be prejudiced because someone is poor.

Agree Grandma70s

Grandma70s

I also thought it a good speech, and I am no Tory or admirer of Sunak. We should no more hold being rich against him than we should be prejudiced because someone is poor.

It isn't the rich I object to it is the assumption that he understands or appreciates those people queueing for the food bank. But it's fairly obvious he isn't alone in that.

Galaxy

Glorianny I am on a middle class income, which I guess so are you, you and me are richer than the majority (worldwide) , is your opinion of no value.

As far as I know I haven't made any one nation speeches? I don't refer to "we" and I'm very aware that there is a country out there that isn't going to listen to Sunak.

I disagree, if the more affluent can’t visualise hunger it follows
no one is capable of visualisation

Glorianny

Smileless2012

I thought it was a good speech too Sparklefizz and I don't see what difference him being 'a rich bloke' makes, would it have been better coming from someone poor and impoverished?

If you don't understand that there are two worlds here the world of Rishi Sunak, with private swimming pools and houses all over the world, and the poverty stricken who depend on food banks and who can't earn enough to feed their children, then you need to get out and about more. A rich bloke telling those people that he has ideals, that he feels his country is threatened means nothing. His country is not their country, how can it be?
If you want to unite a country begin by recognising the needs of the people you are speaking to. Don't preach at them.

In your view there are only two worlds? You need to get out more.
There isn’t just the very wealthy and those who attend food banks, what a ridiculous statement.
There are very many who are comfortably off, a few who are very wealthy and many who manage ok as well as a small proportion who need to use a food bank regularly.
In any case, what Sunak said makes sense, and lots of people will be reassured that in future marches and demonstrations will be actually policed and not just ‘managed’, and both Jewish people and muslims shouldn’t ever be assaulted or bullied in the streets. I think the government could have made this statement much earlier but better late than never.

Grandma70s

I also thought it a good speech, and I am no Tory or admirer of Sunak. We should no more hold being rich against him than we should be prejudiced because someone is poor.

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ElaineI

Why is he speaking to nation? What a weird time to do that! People are generally cooking, going home from work, collecting children etc at this time. DD collecting child from after school club, me cooking so missed whatever it was!

I didn't realise he was doing that.

Surely if it was just after the news people might realise it was on?

Bit of a damp squib. Sunak is right to call out extremism but some actual policies might be a good idea.

Perhaps it was specific to the worrying situation developing here as a result of the Middle East war.

AlwaysSmiling

Sadly this is the world we live in now, violence, protest marches, homelessness, burglaries all the time, it is a country that I no longer recognise. Great Britain is no more. If I had a time machine I would go back to the late 50's and go no further forward than the 80's. Those were the years I absolutely loved.

And I thoroughly agree with your sentiments…..

The time and place was all wrong. This should have been read out in parliament - leadership begins there, and Sunak needed to make it plain with a call for moderation of all their language and more respectful behaviour would be a start.

There was no policy announcement, merely a hope that the police would be more effective and unspecified “groups” would be dealt with.

Veritable storm in the teacup.

Well he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t isn’t he ? I wouldn’t vote for him but, fair go, he isn’t a bad speaker.

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

MayBee70

All of this division began with the referendum. Imo.

Agreed.

vegansrock

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

Agreed.

The way Galloway won Rochdale is a wake up call, what happens when a pro Palestinian candidate campaigns in every constituency in the GE and a significant number win. It could decimate the Labour vote in many cities, if the Palestine issue is not resolved soon there could be real problems.

That aside intimidation of MPs or anyone else must stop

Whitewavemark2

The time and place was all wrong. This should have been read out in parliament - leadership begins there, and Sunak needed to make it plain with a call for moderation of all their language and more respectful behaviour would be a start.

There was no policy announcement, merely a hope that the police would be more effective and unspecified “groups” would be dealt with.

Veritable storm in the teacup.

A statement in parliament is heard by a few, a Downing Street statement has much more impact, intimidation is a threat to democracy and affects all parties.

Intimidation of any sort is not acceptable, something needs to be done or maybe the Government should wait until another MP is murdered?

MayBee70

Cossy
Maremia

What we want is a General Election.

I’d say want and need!
Todays ‘ address to the nation’ was just electioneering. Imo

Completely agree

I’ve now heard and read his speech. Yes, well written, well read speech, but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us!

No doubt this will simply lead to more penalties for those choosing to protest.

Sunak probably is a nice bloke, but he cannot read the nation! We need a GE and we need this govt to recognise they’ve caused many of the divides started very nicely by Cameron!

vegansrock

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

Very well said and I agree entirely!

vegansrock

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

Yes.

Hate started at the top. They were warned when the divisive politicking started, about 6-7 years ago, but it was ignored - Anderson announced last year that the election would be fought on “cultural wars” - what cultural war? It hadn’t started until the Tories “identified” enemies of the state.

Gaza and peoples’ alarm at what they see night after night on their television feeds into the narrative and of course marches against the violence are the gift that keeps on giving to the likes of Braverman and Anderson.

Sunak needs to clean his house up of corruption, hate filled speech by some members and a very low bar when it comes to a moral compass.

Do that and I think he will be then in a position to lecture the country.

Talks cheap it's action we want.