Let’s just brush it under the carpet and hope it goes away.

Wyllow3

Surely the news has been reported in at least one MSM or local paper? Definitely not something that would remain unreported? Otherwise it remains allegations. (Not disagreeing with the O/P, its just that so many rumours do fly around)

Well it's been well reported in Hull news. Perhaps MSM don't look outside London!

HousePlantQueen

This alleged crime is frightening and very worrying, whatever the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

To contrast; some 15 years ago, on my way to drop my young son at his friend's house, I saw a young girl, about 3 years old, sitting on the edge of the kerb, playing with a doll. On her own, on the periphery of a small housing estate. With my son holding my hand, I asked her where she lived, she pointed to a house, I took her there, knocked and was told by her delightful mother to mind my own effing business.

What an awful story, and I'm glad you returned the child to safety.
Although not too relevant to this thread, so I was wondering why you recounted it?

Details here maddyone

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/07/labour-consider-plan-to-release-prisoners-after-40-of-sentence-served

"prison overcrowding has emerged as one of the most urgent issues facing the new government,

with governors warning that the prison estate in England and Wales will be effectively full within the next week or so

If the pressures on prisons is so great it rather belies the often made assertion that crime is dropping. Whatever, perhaps we need to build more prisons.

I thought prisoners eligible for parole only serve 50% of their sentences, providing the parole board think they are suitable for release ie have behaved in prison.
I also thought the new government are considering releasing some prisoners after they have served 40% of their sentences.
If I’m wrong, someone will be along soon to tell me.

The pressure on prisons is so great that the scheme is likely to have to continue, if there are literally no places at all: however after these revelations its likely to be revised as to who.

olddog

Does anybody have a link please to " letting criminals out early"

Brought in by the last government: this report giving full details is from May 14th before election called

www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/14/high-risk-offenders-included-in-early-release-scheme-prisons-inspector-says#:~:text=The%20government's%20early%20release%20scheme%20was%20designed%20to%20relieve%20the,23%20May%20to%2070%20days.

"High-risk offenders including a domestic abuser who posed a risk to children have been freed from jail under the government’s early release scheme, a watchdog has revealed.

Charlie Taylor, the chief inspector of prisons, said the Ministry of Justice’s plan to relieve the pressure in overcrowded jails raised “serious concerns” and had undermined safety and risk management.

The disclosure comes amid accusations that the justice secretary, Alex Chalk, has broken a pledge that the scheme would only apply to “low-level offenders”.

In a report published on Tuesday, Taylor said a “high-risk” inmate at HMP Lewes who posed a danger to children had his release date brought forward despite “having a history of stalking, domestic abuse and being subject to a restraining order”.

"The government’s early release scheme was designed to relieve the pressure in overcrowded jails. It initially involved inmates having their sentences cut by up to 18 days. That was increased to between 35 and 60 days in March and will rise again from 23 May to 70 days."

Does anybody have a link please to " letting criminals out early"

Primrose. Today 22:06
I just saw that as Labour are now letting criminals out early, one grooming gang member was released early today.

Labour are considering releasing prisoners early. They haven't done so yet. Many were being released early under the previous government so imagine that's the case you are referring to. Unless it's Scotland where they've released hundreds early since June, but all supposedly no threat to the public.

This alleged crime is frightening and very worrying, whatever the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

To contrast; some 15 years ago, on my way to drop my young son at his friend's house, I saw a young girl, about 3 years old, sitting on the edge of the kerb, playing with a doll. On her own, on the periphery of a small housing estate. With my son holding my hand, I asked her where she lived, she pointed to a house, I took her there, knocked and was told by her delightful mother to mind my own effing business.

We record the ethnicity of victims but not the perpetrators!

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/S3XaIYx2hII?si=lXd0UGvQFAY34yAh

Watch this the UK doesn't give statistics on nationalities that commit crimes but Denmark and Sweden do, its an eye opener, although not an eye opener for me.

Nicenanny3.

maggie Oliver, the former detective who resigned over the disgusting grooming gangs affair has long been saying that stats should show ethnicity of criminals.

I just saw that as Labour are now letting criminals out early, one grooming gang member was released early today.

Bumface

Anybody who threatens the safety of women and children needs to be dealt with. To me it is irrelevant what nationality they are or their immigration status. Whoever they are they need to stopped.

Even after the business with Wayne Cozens and the subsequent revelations about other police officers, I still think the police are not taking the problem seriously enough.

The Police not taking it seriously enough? They're part of the problem Bumface. Every single week without fail there's yet another one in the press for sexual crimes against women or deviant social media posts. Who needs to worry about illegal immigrants!

crazyH

Oh my goodness - glad the little girl is safe

I can still see her in my mind's eye - she was such a tiny little thing and looked so vulnerable and innocent. I think that's what struck my OH - I initially thought he was worried about her making her way down to the road, one which was extremely quiet, but nonetheless dangerous.

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/S3XaIYx2hII?si=lXd0UGvQFAY34yAh

Watch this the UK doesn't give statistics on nationalities that commit crimes but Denmark and Sweden do, its an eye opener, although not an eye opener for me.

Thank you for posting this link. I am forwarding to all family and friends. I am glad someone in the media is prepared to speak up about what is happening in this country and others.

welbeck

why would it be highly unlikely ?
i'd assume the opposite; fewer people around = less likely to be noticed doing something untoward.
there have been several cases of children being snatched in remote areas in the uk.

why would it be highly unlikely ?

I was thinking in terms of 'gang's or groups of paedophiles, rather than an opportunist.

Oh my goodness - glad the little girl is safe

Violence/including sexual violence to women and children must be a priority for our new government

Anybody who threatens the safety of women and children needs to be dealt with. To me it is irrelevant what nationality they are or their immigration status. Whoever they are they need to stopped.

Even after the business with Wayne Cozens and the subsequent revelations about other police officers, I still think the police are not taking the problem seriously enough.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/abducted-girl-found-by-father-in-van-terrified-sixyearold-bound-and-gagged-with-elastoplast-1373070.html

why would it be highly unlikely ?
i'd assume the opposite; fewer people around = less likely to be noticed doing something untoward.
there have been several cases of children being snatched in remote areas in the uk.

Iam64

Rowantree

My father and his family endured comments, opinions, bigotry, abuse and worse in Germany in the 1930s.
Only then it was Jews to blame.

30 years ago, My daughter aged 7 phoned from her friends house, across the road, to say she was setting off home, a distance of a couple of hundred yards. They often played in each others houses, the system of landline calls worked. It meant a parent waiting to safely cross the main road through our village.
Dad heard her coming sobbing - a car had stopped, the driver and a passenger in the back seat. They encouraged her to leave her bike, they’d bring her home. She pedalled like fury, they kept stopping.
Yes I called the police, a female officer arrived in quick time. She recognised me as a trainer from her ‘communicating with children’ course the previous week. Relief all round. She was lovely with our little girl. Led her through, asked at one stage if she thought the might be asking the way somewhere. No said my child -they wanted to take me away from my mummy.

The officer told us we were the 5th attempt abduction. Same description if car, men, approach. It hadn’t been publicised despite chikdren from a number of local schools

That's horrific. Thank God your daughter had the presence of mind to keep pedalling. It made my blood run cold reading your story.

But no warnings to parents of the previous attempted abductions?

Has anything changed? What you are in effect saying is that this 'secrecy' has been going on for a long time.

I remember back in the 90s touring around Norway with my Swedish OH - we'd only known each other for a couple of months. We were in a remote area and passed a house where a very small child, a girl dressed only in shorts, was playing outside the boundaries of her garden, just sitting on the grass and digging around in the soil.

My OH suddenly stopped the car and muttered, "no, no, little girl, not even in Norway" sort of under his breath. I'd absolutely no idea what he was on about - but he told me to watch the child whilst he went and knocked on the door of the house, whereupon the mother came out and collected her.

He explained afterward that all over the world there were gangs of paedophiles and that it was a common misconception that paedophilia was a rarity in Scandinavian countries. His brother was a police interrogator in Sweden and had told him how rife it was in Scandi nations.

Highly unlikely they'd be roaming in remote areas, but who the heck knows.

Rowantree

My father and his family endured comments, opinions, bigotry, abuse and worse in Germany in the 1930s.
Only then it was Jews to blame.

30 years ago, My daughter aged 7 phoned from her friends house, across the road, to say she was setting off home, a distance of a couple of hundred yards. They often played in each others houses, the system of landline calls worked. It meant a parent waiting to safely cross the main road through our village.
Dad heard her coming sobbing - a car had stopped, the driver and a passenger in the back seat. They encouraged her to leave her bike, they’d bring her home. She pedalled like fury, they kept stopping.
Yes I called the police, a female officer arrived in quick time. She recognised me as a trainer from her ‘communicating with children’ course the previous week. Relief all round. She was lovely with our little girl. Led her through, asked at one stage if she thought the might be asking the way somewhere. No said my child -they wanted to take me away from my mummy.

The officer told us we were the 5th attempt abduction. Same description if car, men, approach. It hadn’t been publicised despite chikdren from a number of local schools

NotSpaghetti

This was reported by the BBC on 27th June so obviously not some "secret".
The police asked for witnesses/more info.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqql3kgdxv3o.amp

I said it was not widely reported, not that it was a secret!

Thank you NotSpaghetti