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Let’s just brush it under the carpet and hope it goes away.

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Sago Tue 09-Jul-24 11:38:59

A village outside our City has had a case of four men trying to abduct children, the Police were warned of this numerous times apparently, a local shopkeeper observed these men more than once and called 999.

The men got brave and tried to bundle a 9 year old girl into their car.
Thankfully a member of the public intervened.

These men are allegedly residing at an hotel locally with lots of other men.

They were arrested for the attempted abduction of 5 minors.
They have been released on conditional bail.

As they have no ID, no traceability and nothing to lose it’s very likely they will just disappear into the ether.

This has not been widely reported and apparently local people are furious.

Last year a local university hall of residence was used as accommodation for immigrants, local opposition was strong but it went ahead, a young girl was sexually assaulted, there was one news report and then it went quiet.

The men were all moved on.
No explanation……..just all gone.

Is this a common theme across the UK?

Why are we not allowed to talk about this?

Will our new government offer some transparency or will this just continue to be brushed under the carpet?

Iam64 Fri 02-Aug-24 20:41:52

Who, me ? Absolutely not. It’s a sad fact that chikdren disappear from local authority care for terrible reasons

Greyisnotmycolour Fri 02-Aug-24 18:10:18

Did you vote Reform by any chance ?

Iam64 Mon 22-Jul-24 20:58:07

Ali08

JaneJudge

didn't loads of children go missing from one of the immigration places?

Yes, and they were supposedly recruited by other immigrants to be runners (to sell dr#gs etc) or to be used as pr*stitutes!!

Not recruited , more like coerced

Ali08 Mon 22-Jul-24 20:54:36

Sago

A village outside our City has had a case of four men trying to abduct children, the Police were warned of this numerous times apparently, a local shopkeeper observed these men more than once and called 999.

The men got brave and tried to bundle a 9 year old girl into their car.
Thankfully a member of the public intervened.

These men are allegedly residing at an hotel locally with lots of other men.

They were arrested for the attempted abduction of 5 minors.
They have been released on conditional bail.

As they have no ID, no traceability and nothing to lose it’s very likely they will just disappear into the ether.

This has not been widely reported and apparently local people are furious.

Last year a local university hall of residence was used as accommodation for immigrants, local opposition was strong but it went ahead, a young girl was sexually assaulted, there was one news report and then it went quiet.

The men were all moved on.
No explanation……..just all gone.

Is this a common theme across the UK?

Why are we not allowed to talk about this?

Will our new government offer some transparency or will this just continue to be brushed under the carpet?

They were released under conditional bail, so I assume they have to report to the station X-amount of times a week or something, or be dragged back in to be detained!

Ali08 Mon 22-Jul-24 20:50:52

JaneJudge

didn't loads of children go missing from one of the immigration places?

Yes, and they were supposedly recruited by other immigrants to be runners (to sell dr#gs etc) or to be used as pr*stitutes!!

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 14:21:30

Iam64

It won’t be you Callstemon you’re a tech wizard (I’m not)

I wonder if some photos/pictures have a copyright so can't be shared.
It's happened with other pictures.

I am no tech wizard grin as that wasn't the only think I failed to do this morning!

Bumface Wed 10-Jul-24 14:18:07

Opal

If ever there was an argument for chemical castration for convicted sex offenders, this thread is it.

I remember reading about this back in the 1970s.

As I understand it, the idea was to give sex offenders doses of Anti-androgens which were supposed to curb their yearnings.

The BNF website gives all the details of the various drugs which can be used.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jul-24 14:11:55

It won’t be you Callstemon you’re a tech wizard (I’m not)

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 13:28:39

I still can't post the image

Must be me .......

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 13:28:02

Thanks Callistemon I don't know why... very odd.
Perhaps because I found the 2020 one first??
I'll head over to Iam's other thread later.
👍

HousePlantQueen Wed 10-Jul-24 13:25:41

Opal

If ever there was an argument for chemical castration for convicted sex offenders, this thread is it.

??

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Jul-24 13:25:19

?

Opal Wed 10-Jul-24 13:23:34

If ever there was an argument for chemical castration for convicted sex offenders, this thread is it.

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 13:22:23

NotSpaghetti

When I use your link I get a paper dated 3rd July 2020!

This is the cover!

This is from the link I posted, NotSpaghetti
I can't seem to post the image (of Dartmoor)

By Georgina Sturge
8 July 2024 UK Prison Population Statistics

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 13:18:00

Thanks Iam

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 13:16:05

When I use your link I get a paper dated 3rd July 2020!

This is the cover!

HousePlantQueen Wed 10-Jul-24 12:40:37

Dickens

Presumably all prisoners released so far, or sanctioned for release, have been cleared by the appropriate authority under the last government.

If Darren Grimes has a 'report' that indicates the LP are going to release sex offenders then he should link to its source, otherwise one might be under the impression that he's simply an anti LP trouble-maker attempting to add more flames and tension to an already inflammatory situation.

Indeed. If one was gullible enough to believe Grimes post,it suggests that the day after they formed the government, the Labour party rushed around with a big key, unlocking prison cells. As anyone who has had any experience of dealing with public offices, the wheels grind exceedingly slow.

I will repeat, it is untrue that any prisoner recently released from prison has been released by the Labour administration.

Whether or not prisoners should be released is a serious matter for discussion, but should not be derailed by quoting untruths.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jul-24 12:35:28

Nothing Starmer has said suggests early release for sex offenders.
The Timpson family employs ex offenders but not men who committed sex crimes

Dickens Wed 10-Jul-24 12:23:25

Presumably all prisoners released so far, or sanctioned for release, have been cleared by the appropriate authority under the last government.

If Darren Grimes has a 'report' that indicates the LP are going to release sex offenders then he should link to its source, otherwise one might be under the impression that he's simply an anti LP trouble-maker attempting to add more flames and tension to an already inflammatory situation.

Iam64 Wed 10-Jul-24 12:14:45

I’ve started a separate thread on prisons. I wanted to challenge lies from X but didn’t want to take this thread onto sentencing rather than the constant threats to our children, largely by men

Wyllow3 Wed 10-Jul-24 11:55:48

I don't think it's right to circulate lies on GN from X feeds. We're more responsible than that, surely?

HousePlantQueen Wed 10-Jul-24 11:39:48

Wyllow3

Darren Grimes, whoever he is, would do better to berate the movement who let the situation build up in prisons so that

governors warning that the prison estate in England and Wales will be effectively full within the next week or so

(all refs a little further up the page)

Darren Grimes is a right wing activist, founder of the junior Brexit group, is on GB news I think.

It is disingenuous to rail at Labour for 'letting prisoners out'. They have only been in government since last Friday, any releases from prison were sanctioned by the previous administration. We are all entitled to our opinions, but please do not give rumour and untruths as fact, it really doesn't help the discussion.

HousePlantQueen Wed 10-Jul-24 11:34:04

Namsnanny

HousePlantQueen

This alleged crime is frightening and very worrying, whatever the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

To contrast; some 15 years ago, on my way to drop my young son at his friend's house, I saw a young girl, about 3 years old, sitting on the edge of the kerb, playing with a doll. On her own, on the periphery of a small housing estate. With my son holding my hand, I asked her where she lived, she pointed to a house, I took her there, knocked and was told by her delightful mother to mind my own effing business.

What an awful story, and I'm glad you returned the child to safety.
Although not too relevant to this thread, so I was wondering why you recounted it?

Yes, it was possibly irrelevant, but Iam64's post about her child walking home brought it to mind.

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 11:33:19

Callistemon213

NotSpaghetti

Callistemon213 did you open it to read it?
I clicked on your link and it was 2020?

Yes.

From the report:

Nationality of prisoners
England and Wales, at 31 March 2024

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 11:29:34

NotSpaghetti

Callistemon213 did you open it to read it?
I clicked on your link and it was 2020?

Yes.