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Dogs in coffee shops

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Sakura4 Fri 12-Jul-24 16:24:20

AIBU objecting to dogs being allowed inside coffee shops/pubs etc, in fact anywhere serving food? I just don’t feel this is hygienic especially when dogs occupy bench seats and are fed treats from the tables. Visiting a new bakery and coffee shop for the first time I was nearly knocked over by a small terrier who ‘just loves to say hello to everyone’. It belongs to the owner who lets it wander about at will. I won’t be going back there but it is increasingly difficult to find dog-free places as the ‘dogs welcome’ sign proliferates. Before dog owners retaliate, I DO NOT hate dogs! We have a delightful cocker spaniel in the family which charms everyone but we always seek outside covered areas when eating out ourselves or she stays at home. Is it just me?

Nightsky2 Fri 12-Jul-24 17:57:38

Ilovecheese

It feels like dog central where I live. Their owners seem to imagine that I will find their dogs as delightful as they do.
Can I ask dog owners, I was under the impression that dogs enjoyed going for walks, so why are some of them in prams nowadays?

It’s usually because they have some issues with walking but do like being taken out.
I agree that coffee shops are not the right place and I’m pretty sure that if you were able to ask the dogs they would say that they would prefer to be taken to nice open spaces and not noisy coffee shops for their walks. We only ever ate outside with our dogs.

Joseann Fri 12-Jul-24 18:03:51

I'm a large dog owner, well an owner of large dogs actually! I wouldn't take them into a restaurant, but outside would seem OK. I'd take them into a pub. If it's a small café, then no, probably not. Luckily, I live in a country location where dogs and grubby wellies are acceptable. I think many country places would go out of business if they didn't accept dogs too.

JaneJudge Fri 12-Jul-24 18:08:35

I think i was allergic to my dog when we had her, now she is allergic to me and has decided dad dog is in charge. More fool her i say, he is constantly putting her on a diet and micro managing her whilst he works from home

Urmstongran Fri 12-Jul-24 18:20:19

Urmston is definitely ‘love me, love my dog’. I don’t mind in cafes providing its “paws on the floor”. Most are. But some owners take huge liberties and it really really irritates Himself.

TerriBull Fri 12-Jul-24 18:36:57

I don't mind them in cafes, I like dogs. I understand they're a problem for some people who don't want to be up close and personal with them for all the reasons stated. We have a nice cafe locally, next to the village library where a lot of dog walkers sit outside with their dogs, I like seeing them, dogs are great ice breakers for starting conversations, even with the dog less like me.

NotSpaghetti Fri 12-Jul-24 18:42:01

I don't mind them in pubs if in the public bar.
I don't want to eat with them though.
So it would be no to a coffee shop or any area where food is served...

Theexwife Fri 12-Jul-24 19:03:19

I have eaten in many homes where people have dogs and don't see it as unhygienic even though they are allowed in the kitchen so see cafes,restaurants and pubs as fine where dogs are not allowed in the kitchen.

Sar53 Fri 12-Jul-24 19:11:05

I was on a bus the other day and a lady got on with a very large dog. The dog sat on the seat next to her the whole time she was on the bus. No one, including me, said a thing but I was very uncomfortable with it.
I was thinking of the next person to sit on that seat.
What would you have done .

Rekarie Fri 12-Jul-24 19:13:27

I love to see dogs in coffee shops. I love to see them anywhere.

They are the most wonderful creatures and I prefer them to many humans.

Primrose53 Fri 12-Jul-24 19:19:28

Have always had dogs but do not like them in cafes or anywhere serving food. We recently nipped into a seaside cafe to escape the rain.

The smell of wet dogs was overpowering. A couple sat just inside the door with two dogs on leads. The bigger dog barked at everyone who came in and the small one was on an extendable lead and was tying itself in knots around chair legs etc.

BlueBelle Fri 12-Jul-24 19:29:45

Of course service dogs are allowed MissI I didn’t realise that would be questionable
I think most of us like dogs Rekarie it’s just about knowing animals shouldn’t be forced on everyone Some people are scared of dogs some people are allergic to them and some people like myself like dogs but don’t want to share my eating time with other peoples dogs

Nightsky2 Fri 12-Jul-24 19:43:06

Sar53

I was on a bus the other day and a lady got on with a very large dog. The dog sat on the seat next to her the whole time she was on the bus. No one, including me, said a thing but I was very uncomfortable with it.
I was thinking of the next person to sit on that seat.
What would you have done .

Well I’m very impressed as I couldn’t imagine either one of my dogs travelling by bus.
As for sitting on the seat after the dog had been sitting on it I would think it was nice and warm and be more than happy to sit there that’s if I travelled by bus which I don’t.

DamaskRose Fri 12-Jul-24 20:10:21

I can’t really believe we’re having this conversation. We had dogs till we were no longer able to walk them. I loved them each and every one. They did not come to the table at home never mind in a restaurant or cafe where there would be other humans. From a hygiene point of view we found it unacceptable to have dogs near food in our home. Why should I pay a lot of money for a special meal only to have it spoilt by an animal? Why should I have to go somewhere else?

MissInterpreted Fri 12-Jul-24 20:13:19

So for all those who appear to be horrified at the thought of eating anywhere where there was a dog present, what if you were in a cafe or restaurant and a service dog came in? Would you up and leave?

Jaxjacky Fri 12-Jul-24 20:29:33

Our local pub welcomes dogs, most are well behaved, as are their owners! The worst are on extendable leads, owner ignoring them, yapping dogs, owner feeds treats periodically reinforcing yapping and one dachshund, who’s owner keeps lifting it up, shoving it in people’s faces, including children, entreating they kiss it. We sit well away.
This is a wet pub, no food.
Eating out, we try and avoid places that permit dogs, service dogs are unobtrusive and well trained, as all dogs should be.

sodapop Fri 12-Jul-24 20:57:29

MissInterpreted

So for all those who appear to be horrified at the thought of eating anywhere where there was a dog present, what if you were in a cafe or restaurant and a service dog came in? Would you up and leave?

I think the difference is that service dogs are invariably well trained MissInterpreted and stay quietly by their owners. A lot of dog owners feel their dogs can wander around cafes pubs etc at will.
I have two dogs and they are quite comfortable at home when I go out to eat or have a drink.

Iam64 Fri 12-Jul-24 21:29:08

Dogs in prams may be puppies being socialised, exposed to traffic and crowds before they’re fully inoculated and able to walk on the ground. Mr I carried out huge puppy in a puppy carrier
Or they’re old dogs with mobility problems who benefit from a change of scene

Iam64 Fri 12-Jul-24 21:32:09

My dogs used to go to the pub of into dig friendly cafes. Not any more / I’m fed up with inexperienced dog owners who think they know best yet set no boundaries plus they think dogs need to meet and greet any dog they meet. No they need to ignore other dogs, lie down and stay still ,

Urmstongran Fri 12-Jul-24 21:39:51

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flappergirl Fri 12-Jul-24 22:23:24

Sar53

I was on a bus the other day and a lady got on with a very large dog. The dog sat on the seat next to her the whole time she was on the bus. No one, including me, said a thing but I was very uncomfortable with it.
I was thinking of the next person to sit on that seat.
What would you have done .

Judging by some of the passengers I see on buses I imagine the dog was probably better groomed and more hygienic. He would be unlikely to stick chewing gum under the seat or sneeze all over the person in front for example.

Personally I'm thoroughly sick of young children running riot in eateries. They are a danger to waiting staff, plaster their grubby fingers everywhere and screech to high heaven like monkeys in the rain forest, all totally unchecked by their parents.

Worst of all you are supposed to find all of this utterly endearing, especially as a woman, or risk being burned at the stake. Give me dogs any day.

MissAdventure Fri 12-Jul-24 22:44:52

I'm not keen on animals being around where food is served, really (or children either, but these things are sent to try us)

No doubt it's different in one's own home, with the "furbabies" doing what they do in your kitchen.

I won't list them, but...

Calendargirl Sat 13-Jul-24 06:34:44

Any animal being referred to as babies, daughters etc winds me up.

They are cats and dogs, for goodness sake. Not members of the human race,

And you never used to see them in pushchairs or prams. But then seeing as they are ‘fur babies’…..

Curtaintwitcher Sat 13-Jul-24 06:40:59

Why have the rules on hygiene been relaxed, is this all part of the Liberal attitude to life in general? There used to be a law banning dogs from any premises where food was sold. There is a very good reason for it and it should still be the case.

Casdon Sat 13-Jul-24 06:47:25

To the contrary Curtaintwitcher, UK law always allowed dogs in commercial kitchens as well as in eating ares. I can remember the big fuss made when an EU law came in banning them from the kitchens, because it was sensationalised in the press.

biglouis Sat 13-Jul-24 06:53:48

Unless they are service animals I dont think dogs belong in cafes and restaurants, any more than other animals. Can I bring in my cat, snake or rat? Whats so special about dogs?