To complain about public urination

Good on you

As we get older bladder control can be an issue and none of us really wants to pee in public. However if needs must and you are discrete it is not normally a problem. Public toilets are sometimes not nearby.

I do agree that lots of men repeatedly using the same place to relieve themselves is not pleasant.

Actually how dare councils or anyone else suggest going into cafes and pubs to use the toilets? These are private businesses not public conveniences. They would have to have cleaners several times more per day than they normally do. This incurs extra costs for the business who business rates are high enough already. If you are not spending money in that premises then you should not be taking advantage of their facilities. Public toilets are essential and given the massive council tax bills we all pay now, should be provided. maybe reducing some of the less important spending by councils to pay for them.

I felt so sorry for the house owners around the Nottinghill carnival- grown men & woman queuing to pee & defecate in the their basement gardens. One house owner, posted them all YouTube- I absolutely agree with house owner to do this 100 💯 I’d would have done

kwest

Actually how dare councils or anyone else suggest going into cafes and pubs to use the toilets? These are private businesses not public conveniences. They would have to have cleaners several times more per day than they normally do. This incurs extra costs for the business who business rates are high enough already. If you are not spending money in that premises then you should not be taking advantage of their facilities. Public toilets are essential and given the massive council tax bills we all pay now, should be provided. maybe reducing some of the less important spending by councils to pay for them.

Absolutely 👍🏻

Supporting sara1954. Whilst unquestionably mostly men, I have on more than one occasion in the middle of a music gig in a field seen mostly young, university student age, women squat and are clearly peeing on the grass - within what 200 yards of public toilets. It is simple laziness but as a 73 years old man I do feel nervous about calling them out about it, but I often call other men out for this.

kwest

Actually how dare councils or anyone else suggest going into cafes and pubs to use the toilets? These are private businesses not public conveniences. They would have to have cleaners several times more per day than they normally do. This incurs extra costs for the business who business rates are high enough already. If you are not spending money in that premises then you should not be taking advantage of their facilities. Public toilets are essential and given the massive council tax bills we all pay now, should be provided. maybe reducing some of the less important spending by councils to pay for them.

Actually how dare councils or anyone else suggest going into cafes and pubs to use the toilets...

It is a bit rich isn't it?

Putting the onus on local businesses, and making it awkward for the public.

I don't know how many people actually do use cafes, tea shops, etc, but I'd imagine neither the business owners or their patrons would want a steady stream of people using the facilities. Considering how some individuals are tardy with personal hygiene, those toilets which were meant for a limited clientele could become rather unsavoury.

Among my circle of friends, there's a number of us who now no longer go into town to browse / buy, or amble, for this very reason, since the toilets in the high street were sold off by the council and converted into a house by the developers as a des res.

There are public toilets - but they are a long walk from the town centre - you'd never make it if you were in a 'hurry'.

Additionally, the streets are seldom swept, overgrowth of vegetation hardly every cut back, public bins have been removed, planters no longer planted-up (this is a tourist town) - and there are long-standing pot holes on the roads leading into the town.

The town is, in fact, dying - in spite of the volunteer groups who try to keep things clean and tidy. When I first came to this Cotswolds town in 2007, it was a lovely vibrant place, now shops are closing and opening and closing again in quick succession, residents no longer put out their hanging baskets etc because of the (small but destructive) anti-social yobs who destroy them for fun - and word must've got out to the tourists about the lack of public loos, because their foot-fall has, well - fallen.

And it's not just our town.

Dickens, totally agree, one of our local town is the same.
When my children were little, there were toilets in the department store, long gone, toilets in mothercare, same. Toilets in BHS also gone, and some clean public toilets with an attendant, all gone.
Just some horrible men and women together ones in a car park, which I wouldn’t use under any circumstances.

Yes, the unreasonable ones are councils who are refusing to keep public toilets open. It's not men's fault if women envy them being able to pee publicly. Why should they suffer for it?

Because we don't want to watch their great talent.

MissAdventure

Bloody disgusting pigs!!!

I can't stand anything like that.

I totally agree, but Miss A this did make chuckle! 😊

ReadyMeals

Yes, the unreasonable ones are councils who are refusing to keep public toilets open. It's not men's fault if women envy them being able to pee publicly. Why should they suffer for it?

I don't think councils close down public toilets on a whim - many of them just don't have the money for the maintenance. For years they have had to make 'efficiency savings', and the pandemic didn't help matters in spite of the extra funding - which had been handed out incrementally therefore making it almost impossible for councils to plan ahead.

We've all heard tales of councils irresponsibly spending on things that we consider unimportant - but I think most are genuinely struggling. Of course, governments will blame "poor management" but the fact is that when the cost-of-living hits crisis point, people stop spending - and that means councils get reduced income from car parks, leisure centres, museums, theatres, etc, etc.

I do not agree with urinating in lifts or doorways, but sometimes for older men with prostate problems a weak bladder is unavoidable. When my husband was being treated for prostate cancer he couldn’t make a 30 min car journey without at least two stops. Councils don’t help with the total lack of public toilets in towns and cities.

My husband cannot go for long if we are travelling in the car before he wants to stop for a wee. It is so frustrating as I (the driver) am under pressure to find a suitable place which is very hard. He has mobility issues and it’s not possible these days to find a public toilet. I am considering buying him a portable urination bottle for journeys when in the car. 😡

That’s so disgusting!

Carenza123

My husband cannot go for long if we are travelling in the car before he wants to stop for a wee. It is so frustrating as I (the driver) am under pressure to find a suitable place which is very hard. He has mobility issues and it’s not possible these days to find a public toilet. I am considering buying him a portable urination bottle for journeys when in the car. 😡

Many men have thus problem, often due to prostate issues (has he had this checked by his GP?) I think a urine bottle is an excellent idea. He can easily and discreetly use it under a towel.

Carenza He has mobility issues and it’s not possible these days to find a public toilet. I am considering buying him a portable urination bottle for journeys when in the car. 😡

A friend's husband has one of these bottles and apparently it has taken all the stress out of travelling in the car.

May I add spitting in public to this, please? Why do people - men almost exclusively - do it? Makes me feel like wretching when I see it.

Bleuurghh!
Lots of teen lads around this way, so lots of spitting, with associated snorting, and hawking, and generally making a song and dance of it.

I think suitable devices are available for women too.

She wees.
I've yet to see a woman waving one around and using it it in full view of anyone else though.

The number of toilets that have been closed now is very high due to councils saying they can't afford the upkeep.
Going to the loo is a human need - and it's several times a day. It's a health issue that continues to be neglected.
I agree that it's most unpleasant for people to urinate and defaecate in various locations BUT if toilets were available there would be more of an excuse to issue fines if people went in or behind shelters and the like.
Having to hold in one's urine etc is not good for our health but it is being ignored and we just have to cross our legs or just stay in doors. I'm one of many people who have to plan any journey to ensure toilet access is available [ie is the toilet actually open and accessible?]