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Pearly34 Mon 15-Sept-25 02:11:57

Hi everyone
Can somebody please give me some wise advice?
My 8 yr old granddaughter lives 3 hours away. I see her a few times year. Each time she is cold, sulky and won’t sit with or hug me but is all over grandad, jumping for joy when she sees him. This weekend, was final straw. Extended family got plenty of attention, affection but I wasn’t even acknowledged when I walked into the room. My GD is only nice when she knows I am treating her to a new toy or clothes. Otherwise, I’m invisible. My son is divorced from her mother - I am wondering if the mother is influencing her behaviour toward me? I’m not sure. There is no reason I can think of. I’m a loving, kind and present grandmother. She means the world to me but I can’t take it anymore. I’m beyond hurt. And so upset none of my family point out to her that the way she treats her granny is unkind. I’d be grateful for your opinions and advice. Thank you

Applegran Tue 16-Sept-25 14:07:35

This is painful and I see why you are hurt. But she is a child so look for a way to help here. I suggest you look for something she may be interested in - as an example, if she likes them, get a jig saw - so you and she could relate while looking at something else. It could help her overcome whatever is going on. Similarly, walking somewhere together but not looking directly at each other might help - just a walk, or going to a zoo, or a play ground. Good luck and do not give up - comfort yourself and know that time may change things.

Delila Tue 16-Sept-25 14:21:59

You only see your grandchild rarely, so perhaps she hasn’t developed the kind of relationship with you that leads to easy familiarity. So, hold back a bit, relax in the background for the time being, if you can. She may quietly notice things about you that gradually draw her to you.

Lahlah65 Tue 16-Sept-25 14:46:24

My parents sustained a really good long-distance relationship with my daughters by sending things through the post. It could be something as silly as a postcard or a packet of sweets, but there was a way, but there was always a funny and affection message. I think even now she might find it interesting to get some things through the post went so much of arrives digitally, but if she does have a phone, perhaps the odd picture of a cute cat or a dog? Just little ‘keep in touch’ things. Don’t expect a response - it’s more about keeping the channel open. Some of the information above is really interesting, especially about the psychology of children that age. I’m definitely going to keep some of this in mind as my own grandchildren get older.

Crossstitchfan Tue 16-Sept-25 14:57:12

Lathyrus3

Can I respectfully suggest that you spend a bit of time reading about the psychology of 8-10 year olds.There are some excellent articles on line if you just put in these words.

I really think it might make you feel better about the way the granddaughter is behaving towards you.

It’s a time when they develop a growing confidence towards adults and learning to test some of their own power. It a time when most children try out a little bit of “bullying” towards others they see as vulnerable.. I don’t mean that negatively. It’s just a developmental stage.

But I think she senses your vulnerability in wanting to be loved and you are a very safe person for her to try out on.

Probably the best thing to do is to appear totally unaffected by anything she does. Concentrate on the other members of the family, having a good time with them, including her when it seems natural and not reacting in a hurt way. An eye roll with a shrug and a grin is a pretty effective response. A sort of “am I bothered”.

I think another member of the family speaking to her will probably only cause resentment and add to her perception of you as vulnerable.

This seems to be the perfect response.
I also agree about keeping others out of it.
I suppose children can’t be expected to like everybody, even family members sometimes. Many posts on here have covered grandparents not liking their grandchildren.
When one of our adored grandsons was about 6, he suddenly turned into the devil! He decided he didn’t like me or my husband and we decided we didn’t like him much either! He still was invited here when his brother was, and when he was annoying, we held out tongues. We treated him just as we always did.
Eventually, it changed and as he grew up, he became human again. He is now 30, and he and I are extremely close, which I never imagined would happen (my husband died five years ago). Hang in there. This too will pass, as the saying goes!

KatyaStrings Tue 16-Sept-25 15:02:10

I echo the poster who advised you to get lovely grandad on the case. My grandson loves my husband so much he often forgets to say hi properly to me. Grandad just says ‘now you sit here and say hello properly to Nanny, and then we’ll all play so-and-so’ Then takes himself off to the loo. And I always make sure I have ‘a little something for my special boy’ in my bag - a tiny toy, or a sweet. Something I know he’ll love. I’m sure it’s just a phase - there could be some behind-the-scenes negativity but you just have to demonstrate you are kind, generous and friendly and eventually your granddaughter will draw her own conclusions. Good luck!

crissbolitho Tue 16-Sept-25 15:04:09

Hello lovely lady, as others say, stick with it! I’ve been there and during the sad times accepted the crumbs. Don’t force her, she will ( or won’t) come around. Now I’m happy! Alls well but, I did stop berating myself thinking a had done something wrong, I hadn’t. So, look forward to easier times and in the meantime continue your loving ways, always speak to her, always ask her if she’d like to do something with you if not, not a problem, maybe next time then, all will be well.

Borrheid55 Tue 16-Sept-25 15:04:36

I would like to know what your son thinks of this situation. Is he aware that it is happening? If he is bringing her to visit you, then maybe he needs to intervene - gently. I wasn’t sure if the DIL was bringing her on visits. I used to take my two children to meet my inlaws after my divorce even though it caused me so much pain - they ignored me - despite the fact that we lived in London and the inlaws were in Scotland.
It’s always so difficult and so hurtful. I’ve never met my three grandsons ( 17, 15 & 14 living in Malta) and I haven’t seen my two granddaughters ( living in Essex) since before Covid.
I wish you well, I truly empathise.

jocork Tue 16-Sept-25 15:08:04

I used to worry in a similar way about my grandson who is almost 5. He was a lockdown baby and lived abroad for the first 2 years of his life although he visited a few times as I'm not far from Heathrow so the family isolated here whenever they visited. Since they returned to the UK they've lived 200 miles away so I only visit a few times a year. At first my DD was living with me so we mostly visited together. He adores his Auntie and he also adores his Grandad, my DiL's father but was less interested in me or the other granny. We chatted about it once and she said she thought it was because Grandad and my DD did lots of physical play with him, throwing him up in the air and other physical stuff that I can't physically do. The other granny said she hoped he would be more interested in us as he got older and maybe enjoyed board games or craft etc so we might get a look in then. She obviously felt similarly to me so I realised it wasn't he had a problem with me.
In the last year I've had a couple of magic moments when he has shown real affection so I think in my case it's more about who he has most fun with. When I've looked after him alone - only a couple of occasions - he has been fine and enjoyed our outings as I take him out on the bus, something he doesn't usually do, and go to a fun place.
My granddaughter who is 2 does not seem to favour anyone particular so I get my cuddles from her.
Could it be something she particularly enjoys doing with grandad that you don't (or can't) do? Perhaps there is something she would really like that you could do with her alone. I hope you can persevere and that you will have a breakthrough with her in time.

Greciangirl Tue 16-Sept-25 15:17:00

I think she needs to be taught some manners.

Your husband should have a word with her, or maybe another family member.
Children sometimes play with your emotions and it sounds to me that is what she is doing.
Goodness knows why.
Her behaviour is not acceptable and needs to be pointed out.

Madgran77 Tue 16-Sept-25 15:45:24

Pearly34

Yes sad thank you very much for this advice. I love her deeply but have withdrawn from her as I can’t take it anymore. I’m afraid I did not speak to her before she left my home after a family weekend, after she ignored my cheery good morning. Looked straight through me and carried on talking to grandad. I realised I had reached my limit. I’d rather have no relationship with her than this.
Thank you again

To be honest if my granddaughter did that to me I wouldn't wait for someone else to tell then it is rude. I would say quite clearly "That was really rude xxxx! I do not expect to be treated like that in MY home!"

I think you are very wrong to actually do to her what she did to you and not speak to her when she leaves! That just validates her poor behaviour, seeing an adult doing it. Remember she is 8 years old; old enough to know better and also old enough to test boundaries inappropriately if allowed to get away with it!!

The other thing I would do is sit down with her ("xxixx I need to talk to you about something. I have some special biscuits/cake/whatever and some special juice so let's go and sit ...and have that chat". Then say to her that you have noticed for a long time now that she is:
*ignoring you
* doesn't acknowledge you
*only shows interest when you give her something

Ask her why that is happening etc. Dont try to guilt trip her. Just be open and clear and listen carefully to what she says. Dont justify or argue etc. Be the adult and remember she is 8 years old and not an adult!!

Personally I think Grandad could also address it directly when it happend in the same vein..."That was very rude xxxx! That is not like you!" etc but I think YOU also have to model sorting out problems etc as the adult in this conundrum.

Suggest you dont bring up affection and hugging though.

Good luck

Tanjamaltija Tue 16-Sept-25 16:12:53

She knows to be nice when she is getting something - so... don't give her anything unless she is nice without your promise for anything. That is it, really. Just greet her as you greet the others, and yes, be nasty and give the others something if they approach you, not vice-versa. She will soon cotton on to what is happening, mark my words. Cupboard love is not love, it's using you to get something.

Karen22 Tue 16-Sept-25 16:27:39

Try initiating something she enjoys doing, kiddies love diamond art, colouring in etc.
Next time you know shes coming set up your dining table with a craft etc and you sit and do it (without inviting her) . Hopefully she may get curious and come and join you.
I do this when my granddaughter (who can be a bit stroppy) calls, she soon joins in and is then a much pleasant human being as we have fun together . Best wishes x

Stillness Tue 16-Sept-25 16:28:05

I think it’s possible that she is transferring some of her negative feelings towards her mother onto you. It wouldn’t be conscious at all. That said, it’s very hurtful whatever the reason and if it was me and this was really marked and longstanding, I would mention it to my son and ask if he would have a chat with her and see what the response is. We often treat those we are most sure of, in hurtful ways and so you might at least console yourself that she,again not consciously, thinks that you will be there for her,whatever. And you will, of course.

Boing Tue 16-Sept-25 17:38:39

I'm sorry you're experiencing this. Haven't your DH and your son noticed what's happening or is it something nobody's saying anything about? Does she seem ok with her dad, in his company? Sometimes mums can put their feelings and views onto their children which isn't right at all, my DD always loved spending time with her paternal nan & auntie - it was her dad she didn't like. I always encouraged her to go & have fun - her relationship with them was important to her and as long as she was happy, so was I.

madeleine45 Tue 16-Sept-25 17:54:23

I see several possibilities in the situation, and have a few suggestions to make. Firstly, as a child , she probably is told when she is coming , with no option. When I was her age , of course it was the same. Sometimes I had been perhaps playing a game on several days with friends and it was the last bit of something, or all my friends were going to the park on that day, and even though I liked going, it still used to make me feel totally powerless that when parents said "come on" I had to just go. Then I had both granny s but one sort of wanted me to hug and kiss her and it felt smothering, because I am even now quite claustrophobic and dont like to be held very close, whereas the other granny used to give me a quick kiss and say hello etc. So you might look and see how other people greet her, and if you think that is a possibility, you could try being busy with something and say Oh I am making buns in the kitchen, hallo how are you etc., so that you are still welcoming her but she does not feel she is expected to cope with a lot of contact.

Could you find out from her dad and possibly even her mother what things she enjoys. Then rather than giving any sort of present I would be more inclined to offer to do something she enjoys. So you could ask if she wants to come swimming with you , but of course you have to enjoy swimming yourself. It will quickly become obvious if you are just doing it to find something to share, but anything you already do, whether playing golf or playing cards can give you a way to have an enjoyable time. But I do think it is important that you are genuinely asking her to join you in something that matters to you. I have never cared for shopping and would be bored out of my skin if I was asked to go round a town anywhere, but let me go to the riding school, or to a garden somewhere I couldnt be prized away!! If you have the room and she seems to enjoy it, could you give her a bit of garden for herself, where she chooses what grows there and you "look after it" when she is not with you. That would also allow you a good reason to go on whats app or whatever and show her pictures of how things are growing and ask what she wants doing with X or Y. But again it cannot just be lipservice. If she says dont water it, you can warn her that the plants might die, but you must do as she asks - and in the beginning she will test you out and may let things die on purpose. So the check mate to that is that you grow a few of the same plants in pots , so that the next time she comes and says oh they are all dead, you can say you have a few spare plants if she wants to have another go. Dont make a great song and dance about it and she may gradually come to really enjoy both the actual gardening and most children love to take something they have grown home, so the very simplest is to plant radish which grow very quickly, can be used to delinate rows with other slower growing seeds and can be both eaten, taken home to show mum and probably her class too at school if she takes to it.

So whatever you find that might interest her , again dont try and over do it, help where you can, but again you can say you have something else to do and she can start and you will come out and see how things are g oing later etc. In the winter perhaps you might teach her some card games if it is wet and miserable outside. As a teacher , I am all for it, as it is one of the most pleasant ways to really get interested in all sorts of maths, without it seeming to be work. Also simple Pairs as we called it helps with memory. Cards out face down and trying to find 2 of a kind. I teach a couple of easy patience games. Clock patience is of course useful to play but the simplest one that can be played on a tray or on a table in a train etc is where you shuffle and then lay 4 cards out. Your aim is to end up with 4 piles of all the cards of a suit. To begin you must play a red onto a black and vice versa. So if you have a red 8 and the next pile has a black 9 you put the red onto the black and then the card below the 8 is available to look at. You begin with the aces and as you continue the game you can add to each suit pile as you get one available. So you might be able to end up going right up to the Kings, but very often you are stopped by something not allowing you to go on, e.g. if the next spade you want is the 5, but it is under another card that will not go to a suit unless you can look at the other three piles and find a way to use the card above it wont work.

As others have said I can understand your feelings, but remember she is only a child, who doesnt see you often enough to really get to know you or your routine, and so her feelings may be either a worry about what she will be expected to do, or as I said, nothing actually personal but if her best friend has invited her to something, it wouldnt matter who she was visiting she would resent it. As for your husband may I suggest that you talk to him and that one other way that might help is that if he of course says hello in his normal way, but when she wants to monopolize his attention for him to say in a normal voice, not a lot of emphasis or change of tone, Oh granny and I are getting the tea ready do you want to put the plates out? If she says No, just say ok and continue doing it and taking no notice of her, so that you are simply showing that she may or may not join you and either way is ok, so she is getting no positive feedback if she is actually trying to be annoying or else wanting to be the person who calls the shots. In her house or her party maybe, but not in your place. The more you and your husband can be seen as a pair working together, the less she is going to get out of behaving differently to you, and I think you husband should not always but sometimes say, You will have to wait until later I have to do X first, or granny and I are just finishing our game or we have a few things to do in the garden, so that she sees she is important of course, but not the centre of the universe. The way she sees adults behaving towards each other in a normal way in a shared home , will surely be very good, for her to know that there are a variety of ways you can live on your own or with others and give and take will always matter , in whatever way you live or work. Dont forget to have one or two little things in your mind that you can do or speak about if she is being rude and ignoring you. So you could say to the whole room, Oh just must go and phone Mary about next weeks meeting , or whatever, so that you actually dont show any reaction to her behaviour and just carry on. Or suddenly say Oh must check on the oven, or must just dash to the post I have forgotten something. Anything that allows you to just do your own thing and not give her the satisfaction of seeing a reaction from you. Whilst it could be good for your husband or son to suggest that you might like a hug, before they see you, dont put a great emphasis on it , as again she will see that she is taking charge of the situation. She quite possibly will not totally understand what she is doing, she is only 8 and she may only see that she is getting her own way for once, rather than deliberately trying to sabotage the situation. Then have the secateurs at the ready for when they leave, ask you husband to make you some tea or coffee while you just have a few minutes in the garden and it is very satisfying to do a bit of snipping! The plant looks better and you feel relieved. No words need to be said , I tend to do the same any time I see Trump or Farage!! If the visit works a bit better, then the garden idea or the cards will give you a possibility to offer next time - would you like to learn another game, etc or you could offer a totally different idea , so she may feel too old for dolls etc but might have a precious teddy or something and you could make something for that. Or if she uses a phone already, could you show her how to take good pictures of things she has made or whatever. Hope some of this might give you some ideas.

emilie Tue 16-Sept-25 18:21:16

You said you would rather have no relationship. Do just that!

Melathome Tue 16-Sept-25 18:39:27

I don’t entirely agree with some of these comments because this little girl is actually being deliberately rude to her grandmother and that’s not acceptable behaviour. Someone in the family should gently but firmly correct this “say hello to Grandma “ and make sure this is repeated. She may not return affection but respect and good manners should be a standard.

Melathome Tue 16-Sept-25 18:49:45

I don’t entirely agree with some of these comments. This little girl is being deliberately rude to her grandmother and that is unacceptable behaviour. She should be told firmly but gently “say hello to Grandma “ and this repeated until she understands what is expected. Affection can’t be forced but respect and good manners should be standard.

valdavi Tue 16-Sept-25 19:35:07

Aldom

I am sad for you.
What does your husband think about your granddaughter's attitude towards you?
The more I think about it the more I feel perhaps your husband is at fault here.
Surely he can see what is happening?
It's up to him to gently encourage your granddaughter to engage with you.
Do you think, as I suspect, your husband enjoys the attention from his granddaughter?
It really is wrong of him to allow this one sided relationship to continue.
You should have times when you are sharing activities and times when each grandparent has one to one time with your granddaughter.
I'd discuss this with him and see if he can see your point of view.
I hope things improve for you.
Please don't give up on the child.
It's the adult who is the problem.
flowers

I think that's very wise advice Aldom.
When an 8 year-old stares right through you when you greet her in your own home, that's really, really upsetting. But up to the other adults to realise this (how can they miss it?) & start to address it,

AuntieE Tue 16-Sept-25 19:46:10

The child may not be influenced by her mother, you know.

It may well be that her parents' divorce has made her feel that mothers and grandmothers are not to be trusted.

You do not mention how old she was when her parents divorced, nor if she is more openly affectionate towards her own father than to her mother.

Have you tried discussing this problem with your son?

Does he ignore his daughter's attitude towards you?

To my mind he should long since have corrected her behaviour towards you, at least to the extent of telling her to answer when you wish her good morning!

Iam64 Tue 16-Sept-25 20:20:57

I’m in agreement with Lathryus. This age group are frequently a bit of a challenge, developmentally all over the place.

Back off, be friendly and positive but don’t push it.

Oreo Tue 16-Sept-25 20:50:58

Iam64

I’m in agreement with Lathryus. This age group are frequently a bit of a challenge, developmentally all over the place.

Back off, be friendly and positive but don’t push it.

The best advice on here.👍🏻

Madmeg Wed 17-Sept-25 00:31:24

I'm afraid I don't agree with most of the posters on this. My GD ignored me until she was about 8 but despite my DH being pretty poor at relationships in general she was much happier with him, and happier still with the other set of GPs. I never let my disappointment show and as I said, at roundabout 8 it suddently changed. Nobody did or said anything to her, she simply grew up a bit. It seemed to coincide with her becoming more confident in herself - she realised that she was pretty good at dancing, gymnastics and singing and was keen to show of her new skills to everyone including me, and as I had also been good at dancing and singing (not gymnastics, sadly) we had something in common. I was able to dance and sing with her (her other GM is very overweight and tone deaf (even though she is a lovely GM)), so I sort of came into my own. Similarly when she started having piano lessons I dug out some simple music books that had tunes she recognised and we would take turns to play/sing together. It could have been any other interest (oh, I forgot, we did also share a bit of gardening as others mentioned, with tomato plants and strawberries in my case).

Those days of being ignored are now well behind us. She is 11 now and we are good friends!

So I wouldn't have wanted anyone telling her off (however gently, and I can't imagine that telling her she was being rude would have had anything but a negative effect.

Just hang in there and it will change.

twiglet77 Wed 17-Sept-25 11:24:53

I absolutely do not expect hugs from any of my four DGC, aged from eight to three. I savagely object to people assuming it’s ok for them to touch me, and even a handshake should not be taken as a right. No child should be expected to hug or kiss a grandparent, or sit on a lap, however welcomed it would be, physical displays of anffection should only be initiated by the child and if they don’t actually want to to touch, they shouldn’t be made to. Manners are different, though, and there’s no excuse for rudeness. Eye contact and a polite greeting, or thanks, really can be expected and the child (or indeed, adult GC) won’t hurt from a reminder to be polite.

OP you do give the impression that you’re needy and rather entitled. Back off a little, rise above what you see as attempts to upset you - you are the adult and can set an example in terms of grace and kindness in the face of adversity.

twiglet77 Wed 17-Sept-25 11:25:21

*affection!