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Ilfracombe. Angel of the West? - Public Art

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crimson Tue 16-Oct-12 15:53:48

No one will ever better The Angel of the North. No matter how many times I see it, I still feel it welcome me as I travel oop north. It works on so many different levels and represents so many different things. I didn't like the Oadby one,and the Anish Kapoor looked like a satellite dish, but it seems to change with the light so I'd quite like to see it. The boy with the dolphin was beautiful, but I did want to put a loin cloth on him [the boy that is]. Not for decencies sake but because he looked painfully vulnerable confused in an 'ouch' sort of way.

numberplease Tue 16-Oct-12 15:51:17

I think it`s horrible, should be in an art gallery, not on the quayside in lovely old Ilfracombe.

isthisallthereis Tue 16-Oct-12 15:42:14

Ouch greatnan! I loved my visit to that Matisse chapel. Though I wouldn't call it public art really, I think it was a commission for a religious order of Dominican nuns. He called it his "masterpiece".

It's healthy to laugh at works of art. But if you then remember them (as you've clearly done in this case), they've worked!

Greatnan Tue 16-Oct-12 15:19:22

Thanks for the links, isthisall. I did find The Angel of the North strangely impressive. I agree most modern art makes me want to sing 'The King is in the altogether.....'
My daughters visited a chapel near St. Paul de Vence when they were in their mid-teens. It had been decorated by Matisse. It was full of Americans being very respectful.. One of my girls said very loudly 'What vandal did this graffiti?' and a lot of the other visitors burst out laughing.

crimson Tue 16-Oct-12 15:01:56

I'm afraid I don't like it.

Lilygran Tue 16-Oct-12 14:44:20

Pregnant woman, yes. Physiological model, yes. Art? No.

jeni Tue 16-Oct-12 14:26:22

I rather like it! It's much better than his usual efforts!

isthisallthereis Tue 16-Oct-12 14:04:56

Wow!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19881524

I had no idea this was going up in Ilfracombe! Anyone live there or know it?

It's worked for me, I might actually go there now next time I'm in the West Country (and buy a cup of tea, a fish & chips or hotel accom ie put some money into the local economy), and it'd be for the first time. Even though the place seems more than a bit rough in the BBC report. I love the woman saying "We've got enough pregnant women in this town already". It all reads like an episode of Shameless, with fish!

btw I think Hirst is an appalling artist and it's a very poor sculpture**. But that's not the point. It's not permanent, it can always be removed, it's only a loan anyway. I went to Damien Hirst's exhibition recently at Tate Modern and it was garbage, imo. I couldn't wait to get out. He's a brilliant self-publicist, hence the absurd diamond-encrusted skull (made by Hatton Garden craftsmen, he can't actually make any of this stuff!) No doubt this giant figure is more self-publicity. You can always shut your eyes as you walk past it if you don't like it.

But should the Council have given it planning permission? I say a big Yes.

** of course it would be great if all public sculpture was of the standard of Michelangelo's David or of Barbara Hepworth or Alexander Calder. But this is the real world. And there was an article (in the Guardian?) about why all recent public art in this country is cr@p and always will be. Dancing to too many irreconcilable tunes. Prompted by the cancellation of Mark Wallinger's White Horse project in Ebbsfleet, Kent.

** many thanks, Professor Google, here's the Wallinger article:

www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2011/jul/05/public-art-cannot-be-good-art

Now that would indeed have been a superb piece, imo. His work I saw recently at the Baltic in Newcastle was thrilling, wonderful, bliss!

*
Here are some of the public sculptures we have/have to endure round here (a-f) for any of your thoughts or comments and four from London, all of which I adore, especially (j). I'll say now that (a) in Loughborough is massively popular with everyone I hear speak about it, so that must rate it a success ..... mustn't it? Humour seems to help. The Oadby one, (d), has always been a total mystery to me. What it is and even why it is! I think it's something to do with the local textile industry and it's supposed to help give Oadby some identity, heehee ... it's not worked on that score then:

a) empedia.info/resource/124?set=empedia%3Amaps%2F7

b) www.flickr.com/photos/historyanorak/3034691604/

c) www.leicester.gov.uk/your-council-services/lc/growth-and-history/statuesandsculpture/southafricanwarmemorial/

d) www.flickr.com/photos/mistdog/6110773982/

e) www.crosbyheritage.co.uk/location/leicester/thomas-cook-statue/

f) www.leicester.gov.uk/your-council-services/lc/growth-and-history/statuesandsculpture/seamstress/

g) www.flickr.com/photos/normko/1338558748/

h) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArcelorMittal_Orbit

i) www.timeout.com/london/art/event/56072/anish-kapoor

j) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sculpture_Of_Boy_With_A_Dolphin-Chelsea.JPG