Art, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I very much would love to see a Giles Davis exhibition, his work is wonderous, thankyou Greyduster.
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I was never artistic at school when it came to using a paintbrush. However, when I got my first computer in the late 90s it came with a digital art package. My children encouraged me to give it a go, at first I was reluctant, but soon got the hang of it, three months later I was having and exhibition of my work, which is mainly abstract. People seem to like it and have been willing to pay for it. As one can send it by e-mail, it people all round the world, including some well known celebs have it. Although it is encouraging that people like it enough to buy it, I much prefer to create a picture for free just to make someone happy.
Art, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I very much would love to see a Giles Davis exhibition, his work is wonderous, thankyou Greyduster.
Many of the great artists of the medieval and Renaissance periods employed teams of lesser painters to paint the backgrounds and some of the detail of their paintings under their direction. Nobody suggests that the paintings are not theirs because they had a team of little helpers.
We all made magazine collage art at Art School during my "pre-dip" days.
It was interesting and involved a lot of searching through them for just the right texture/shade etc. It was harder than it seemed.
I have done it since with children and in my sketchbook.
He had the original of Porthcurno Beach on display at an exhibition of Peak Diatrict Artisans at Chatsworth and it just blew me away.
CanadianGran
Greyduster, thank you for introducing Giles Davis to me! I hadn't heard of him before and googled his artwork. Fantastic!
How creative and painstaking his pictures are.
Funny, I was just allowing my granddaughter to start cutting up some of my stack of magazines. She was very reluctant; kept asking me if I was sure it was ok! Now that I have seen his work (and watched a video), it has fueled my creativity, and will plan another collage session with my GD.
I’m in agreement.
Greyduster, thank you for introducing Giles Davis to me! I hadn't heard of him before and googled his artwork. Fantastic!
How creative and painstaking his pictures are.
Funny, I was just allowing my granddaughter to start cutting up some of my stack of magazines. She was very reluctant; kept asking me if I was sure it was ok! Now that I have seen his work (and watched a video), it has fueled my creativity, and will plan another collage session with my GD.
Anyone remember the catch phrase 'but is it art?' in the 60's. There was an art explosion then. The same is happening now with our advances in technology. I love anything that strikes me as beautiful, so good on you, Yongy, this world needs pioneers in art now just as we did then.
A hand guiding s cursor is exactly the same as using a brush or pen. The artist using the cursor is jsut as much using their brains and unique ability to put paint on paper. each stroke could ruin the picture it could run or be too thick or too thin or the wrong colour all those same decisions have to be made about colour, line etc
No way
I see the software as a medium where art is created. You can be a textile artist and use fabric, or a glass blowing artist who creates with glass. There are infinite mediums to create art.
For instance, if you are familiar with the glass art of David Chulily you know that he creates fantastic glass installations, but he no longer actually blows the glass himself. Is he an artist, and are his works art? I say yes.
So I do see that digital art is a valid form of artistic expression. You don't need to have paper and pencil, or paint and canvas to create art.
I am not at all against digital art - I bought a digital picture at an exhibition a couple of years ago. It was so arresting I couldn’t walk past it. I spent a while talking to the man who made it about the techniques and it’s not straightforward. I was in our city art gallery this afternoon and there were several examples of digital art on display, as well as a stunning exhibition of landscape photographs that looked almost three dimensional. Would those who dismiss digital art dismiss collage art similarly I wonder? When I first saw Giles Davis’ work I though they were oil, not hundreds of tiny pieces of magazines torn up and placed to make remarkable artworks.
Callistemon21
^and some like those Australian firemen calendars^ .
I've missed those 😯
www.australianfirefighterscalendar.com/product-listings/
*Bluebelle, A hand guiding s cursor is exactly the same as using a brush or pen. The artist using the cursor is jsut as much using their brains and unique ability to put paint on paper. each stroke could ruin the picture it could run or be too thick or too thin or the wrong colour all those same decisions have to be made about colour, line etc.
As has been pointed out, most of David Hockney's recent art has been digitally produced, yet the style and the skill and genius are exactly the same as in those paintings he did with brush and paint. He has made the same decisions about his digital works of art as his others.
If I were to ever be mad enough to have a go at digital art, the work I would produce would be as badly planned and executed as anything I might attempt to do on a piece of paper or canvas - and anybody seeing it would instantly recognise it as such.
Nor is there any difference between digital art and a photographer. Both he/she and the digital artist needs an eye to see the beauty and then recreate it, one with a camera, the other with a mouse.
I have just noticed you talk about taking photos and enhancing them. Are you mistaking tweeking photos for digital art? If so you are entirely mistaken. A digital artist starts with a blank screen, like a blank piece of paper and designs and draws their image and then adds and layers colour over it. It is exactly like drawing. Do you think what David Hockney now does is tweak photographs, surely not!
Like others have said I believe real art is hand and eye
Not a computer. Sorry but I had a five year art education.
I totally agree it is a skill in its own right but it needs a different name as it is done by the ‘artist’ second hand Misinterpreted
I don’t agree monica a hand guiding a cursor to do the work is not ‘quite’ the same as Van Gogh or Leonardo using their brains and unique ability to put paint on paper. each stroke could ruin the picture it could run or be too thick or too thin or the wrong colour but digitally it is using someone else skills in your own interpretation it’s clever but it’s far removed from the hand on the canvas/ paper
And Monica there is a vast difference between a photographer with an eye needed to ‘see’ the beauty and the hand to capture it to someone who takes a photo and then digitally enhances it to ‘make’ a sunrise or a rainbow or a storm
It’s like the big bums and big boobs…. artificially manufactured
Art is definitely in the eye of the beholder indeed, but work and skill is in the person and the persons hands not in a computer in my opinion
and some like those Australian firemen calendars .

I've missed those 😯
A chacun son goût!
Some people like those green Chinese ladies on their wall. , some prefer Monarchs of the Glen and some like those Australian firemen calendars.

I am reminded of a previous poster who took great pride in their “art” but IMO it didn’t even warrant a place on the fridge door.
If you sell by email to celebrities all over the world, good luck to you. Personally though……..not my taste.
Of course digital art is done by hand. The artist has to guide the cursor, they have to make decision about what form the artwork will take, and all the decisions that an artist has to make before putting pen or brush to paper.
I assume those who do not consider digital art is art, do not consider photography art either.
There is so much of this stuff online.
People can produce 'art' any way they want to. However, it can be viewed and valued any way onlookers want to.
Creating digital art is a skill in itself. Maybe some people shouldn't be quite so dismissive of it.
I've painted all my life and tried drawing on an I Pad but really couldn't get on with it. I need direct contact between my hand and the painter. However I am full of admiration for the work that David Hockney produces and I've seen Jim Moir do some lovely digital landscapes.
I have just looked at some digital art, it looks good
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I agree with Bluebell
I know enough to know it’s not done by a hand and that’s enough for me thanks
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