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Kiora Wed 19-Feb-14 11:31:40

My daughter is staying with me over the half termsmile and we had a conversation yesterday about lying. We have two relatives who routinely tell quite big lies. We think it's attention seeking, trying to deflect blame for bad behaviour. Some of the lies are huge and yet none of the family challenge these two. Is it because we are embarrassed or we don't want to embarrass them? My husband who was listening tells me men do this a lot but not about such serious issues. Mostly about how much they earn/ success with women that kind of stuff. We agreed that we often embellish stories mostly to make them more interesting. My daughter thinks harmless flirting on a night out is very different from down right lies. So why do we let the big lies go unchallenged are we both cowards by not confronting the lies ?

Paige Fri 21-Feb-14 12:48:02

Absent I'm curious where you found that information about Wyatt Earp? hmm

Joan Fri 21-Feb-14 12:17:22

I'm useless at fibbing: bad memory for one thing, and I can't control my facial expressions very well. So I stick with evasions or silence.

For instance, if a friend asks if I like her new skirt/hairdo/outfit, and I really hate it, I avoid the issue by saying it's no good asking me 'cos I'm useless at fashion (which I am).

For most things, I just have to be honest and take the consequences. No choice really. People put it down to my Yorkshire outspokenness, sometimes.

gillybob Thu 20-Feb-14 23:18:50

The "someone" I know is a very good person. cathybee

I wouldn't let a few white lies spoil an otherwise good relationship with your DH. Especially if he does it in order to protect your feelings and keep on your good side. smile

cathybee Thu 20-Feb-14 13:16:27

gillybob..the someone like him that you know..are they a good person or a bad person?

I have been married a long while and you made me realise something about DH, that maybe he IS just trying to protect me when he lies and tells me things I want to hear, thank you for that, as it did alleviate a lot of anger I had towards him.

harrigran Wed 19-Feb-14 23:26:14

Many years ago my sister was abroad on holiday and her flight home did not land until after she should have been at work. She got me to call work and say that she was unwell, by the time she arrived home she had indeed become ill. It does not pay to tempt fate.

Aka Wed 19-Feb-14 23:00:42

grin

annodomini Wed 19-Feb-14 22:43:53

Nice one, absent! wink

Kiora Wed 19-Feb-14 22:10:01

grin & little titter

absent Wed 19-Feb-14 21:51:54

Well, gillybob he was deliberately winding me up with the suggestion of Wyatt as a name for my grandson. So I reckon he deserved it. grin

gillybob Wed 19-Feb-14 21:48:01

Oh Absent how could you? grin

absent Wed 19-Feb-14 18:07:09

I have a reputation in the family for being scrupulously honest so when I explained to a fairly mcp son-in-law (now ex) that I didn't think Wyatt was a good name for my first grandchild because Wyatt Earp, far from being the man's man as he is portrayed, was actually gay and had a long-standing relationship with Doc Halliday, I not only convinced aforementioned mcp son-in-law but absentdaughter too. She blithely trotted out this piece of "new information" to her friends and he threw away his DVD of Gunfight at the OK Corral. blush

JessM Wed 19-Feb-14 17:56:14

When I worked in an NHS personnel office two of the kitchen staff kept calling in sick for odd days with different excuses. Until one of the personnel officers noticed that the two of them were taking the same days...

numberplease Wed 19-Feb-14 17:16:39

When I was still working, one of my workmates regularly took time off, but her excuses nearly always backfired on her, and our supervisor used to say that to be a good liar you first needed a good memory.

rosesarered Wed 19-Feb-14 15:01:56

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive!
Only you know when and if you should challenge family members about lying.

gillybob Wed 19-Feb-14 14:44:15

I don't know him Cathybee but I do know someone very like him! grin

cathybee Wed 19-Feb-14 14:29:54

gillybob..you must know him, I think you may be spot on. He is always trying to tell me what he thinks I want to hear.

I know its not malicious lies but it is very annoying and I can never trust anything he says. Which is not nice.

gillybob Wed 19-Feb-14 14:24:07

I think he was telling you what he thought you needed/wanted to hear at the time cathybee Perhaps he was just trying to show support to you. I don't think it was bad, really.

cathybee Wed 19-Feb-14 14:13:45

Is this a little lie or just a bad lie

I had a disagreement with my youngest daughter--she was being a bit mean--we share a car and I asked could I use it for a couple of days and she came up with a thousand and one excuses, why I could not have the car.

My DH came to me and said that he had words with her and told her she was being mean however, something did not ring true and I confronted him and asked straight out, did you just lie about that, eventually he admitted that it was a fib.

Why would you lie in that way, I just do not understand him and probably never will.

AlieOxon Wed 19-Feb-14 14:10:05

I have differences with my daughter about this. There is a third kind of lie which is told to get something you want from an authority....or to get out of an obligation or an appointment....

She gets what she wants, but I can't do things that way, it does my head in if I do tell even small lies.
I don't think she lies to me - but she doesn't feel guilty.

kittylester Wed 19-Feb-14 13:46:22

I've talked on here (rather too much probably) about my Mum and her lies which estranged my brothers and I for a long time. Even now, if one of us says something like 'Well, that's what Mum said' another one of us is bound to say 'Well, in that case it must be true'. grin

sunseeker Wed 19-Feb-14 13:46:04

I'm like you KatyK, I blush very easily so telling whoppers is out of the question for me. I can seem to get away with what I call "kind" lies - you know the sort of thing, if a friend asks if you liked the present they gave you, you always say yes even if you considered it too awful even for the charity shop!!

Some time ago I did meet someone on holiday who seemed to have lived a very varied and exciting life, she said she had taught English all over the Middle East, taught computer science in USA and UK, had been on several archeological digs in Greece and Egypt, was a dance teacher and had played in a rock band. Being a trusting soul I believed her until one night when she got up to dance - her dancing was worse than mine (and that's saying something)!

KatyK Wed 19-Feb-14 13:24:50

Any time I have ever told a little white lie, my face goes bright red blush so there is no point. There are people in our family who tell the most blatant lies and what we call 're-write family history' - taking credit themselves for something that was done by someone else. No one ever challenges them, not sure it's worth it really. The only person they are kidding is themselves.

Nonnie Wed 19-Feb-14 13:24:33

I know someone who boasts that no one has ever called her a liar but she tells huge ones all that time, usually with the intent of making someone else look bad. Perhaps everyone is to frightened to challenge her in case she starts about them?

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 19-Feb-14 13:04:55

Myself! Not "himself"! hmm #fire

gillybob Wed 19-Feb-14 13:04:36

grin merlogran