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Relationship with Adult Daughter Strained

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Coolgran65 Wed 06-Aug-14 03:20:56

It's been said repeatedly on this thread..... Keep your eyes open and your mouth shut..... Provide an welcome and a hug, but not advice unless asked for it.
Your grandson is now 9, it won't be long until he will have his own opinions and perhaps his mum will have to rethink her attitude.

rubylady Wed 06-Aug-14 00:39:21

Southline If your grandson wanted to stay in bed would it not have been easier for you to go to their home and mind him there? Then he would not have had to get out of bed at all until he was rested. Then when he woke, you could have taken him back to yours for her to collect him later and you could have done your errands then as well. smile

angiebaby Tue 05-Aug-14 21:32:22

hi southline,,,,this is like looking in the mirror to me,,,similiar to what you have been through,,,,take all the addvice you can on here,,,,,,,my advice,,,keep quiet,,,say very little,,,,dont make comments,,,offer help if its asked for,,,otherwise keep out let them get on with it no matter how your feeling,,,just be there for them,,,,,thats all you can do,,,,that way you cant be in trouble . ,,,i know it breaks your heart sometimes,,,,,but its the only way,,,,,you dont want to get shut off completely,,,,,,,because thats a killer ,,,i know i have been there.....chin up,....

sparkygran Tue 05-Aug-14 18:37:58

Don`t do anything you will live to regret. Support your GS however and whenever you can and don`t get over-involved.

Mishap Tue 05-Aug-14 18:19:33

Best to say nothing to either. Just go with the flow. No-one is an ideal parent; and if you want to have contact with your GS you need to bite your tongue - very hard sometimes I know

Tegan Tue 05-Aug-14 17:18:36

Those grannies that knit Shreddies knit zips as well....wink...alas, we've all needed one at one time or another sad...

KatyK Tue 05-Aug-14 17:15:38

I agree with Aka and others above. I spoke up re my daughter and it was a big mistake. Things have never been the same. I think we have to suffer in silence and paint on a smile. Not easy but best.

Tegan Tue 05-Aug-14 16:56:06

Even the youngest, loveliest children are very good a manipulating adults as well,which is why it's important to not critiscise their mums or dads.

littleflo Tue 05-Aug-14 16:51:14

The reason why you should say nothing, is because "You cannot reason with unreasonable people." You sound like a lovely grandma and I think you should just continue to be a support for your grandson. Without talking negatively about your daughter, you perhaps need to give your grandson some coping tools. I would find a good pyschology book which would help you both find the right words for handling her.

Eloethan Tue 05-Aug-14 16:32:18

Without knowing in what other ways your daughter is "selfish", and given that you say she's a "great mom", it's difficult to advise. Having the radio on too loud in the car is annoying (my daughter tends to do the same and doesn't take kindly to requests to turn it down). But without knowing exactly what happened between your daughter and your grandson it's probably best to try and overlook these relatively small incidents.

If your grandson thinks that you automatically "side" with him, he may start to exaggerate small incidents (all mums are unreasonable and selfish sometimes, like anyone else). As others have said, maybe your daughter is under pressure, stressed and sometimes impatient. My feeling is that you are right to give your grandson the time and attention to have a moan but try not to show by word or facial expression disapproval of her behaviour, either to him or to her.

rosequartz Tue 05-Aug-14 15:47:46

Yes, chunter away on here (but don't make it too personal as advised on another thread in case you are recognised). However, try not to say anything to her or to your GC about her either. A zip is always a good idea, however much you are wanting to say your piece!

I sounds as if she is stressed (getting an unwilling child up and out early in the morning is stressful in itself), going to work, coping on her own, although with your help luckily.

Perhaps he had a late night, I suppose it is the school holidays but sounds as if he needs to go to bed earlier possibly. Only try not to say that to your DD!

Southline Tue 05-Aug-14 15:37:58

Wish I had looked for a helpful forum years ago!!! Thank You, Thank You, and Thank You !!!

Have a Great Day !!!

Tegan Tue 05-Aug-14 15:07:49

Southline; when something like that happens, keep quiet but come on here and have a grumble. Trust me, it really helps!

Nonu Tue 05-Aug-14 15:05:06

Wise words AKA & SOUTH
[last two posts]
sunshine

Southline Tue 05-Aug-14 15:00:52

Thank you for a quick response... My mind has been dwelling on this for days. I'll not say a word!!! Again, Thank You !!!

Aka Tue 05-Aug-14 14:52:53

I wouldn't confront her about this. It won't do any good and will, in all probability, make things worse. Just be there for your grandson. But neither should you criticise your daughter to your GS, even if it's not in words.

OK, she's difficult. You'll just have to accept that and she's unlikely to change in the short term. If you want to maintain any sort of relationship with her, no matter how flawed, you're going to have to 'see all and say nothing'. There are people on this forum who have been denied all contact with GC for similar reasons, and some for no reason at all.

Think about your GS and put your relationship with him first.

Southline Tue 05-Aug-14 14:38:54

My adult daughter until just recently lived in our home with our 9 year old grandson. In his 9 years they have attempted to live on their own I think it were 4 times. She is a very hard person to live with. Basically, because she's hard to live with thus she always came back home. She's had my grandson's dad and a boyfriend live with her and to hear them tell it - she pretty much treated things the same as I have dealt with her when she lived at home. Long story... but as she and my grandson have recently moved out I'm still bothered with our strained relationship. She's a great mom but she tends to be selfish in ways I cannot keep my mouth shut. It's very difficult for me to keep quiet after several acts of selfishness. I try hard to not say a word in my opinion but eventually I can't hold it in any longer. I do try very hard to keep my nose out of her business but sometimes... sometimes it is next to impossible!!! My husband will tell me "why did you say that?" to "she's a good mom and she's just selfish." He's not one to be confrontational and it's easier to just ignore till he too will eventually give his opinion.

So this leaves me with my latest occurrence and I thought maybe if I asked others for advise???

One recent morning she were dropping my grandson off on her way to work. I happen to go out front to meet him and saw he were "already" getting in trouble for something. Finally he came down the drive way and I asked him were he alright? He were very very tired and just wanted to go back to bed. It were early between 6:30-7:00 am for her to be at work. Because he looked so sad I went to the bedroom to make sure he were ok. He had locked the door and I asked could I come in? He open the door but told me he just wanted to go to sleep. When he finally woke we were running errands and I asked him did he want to talk to me about what happened this morning? He said his Mom got mad at him cause she said he were whining. He said he asked her to turn down the car radio so he could sleep. (I too have been in the car with her and she blared her radio and when I asked her to turn it down - my request too caused a problem) So anyway, my question is since we rarely agree on many of her selfish acts of discipline and that would be her biggest reason for moving out... I want to confront her with how she should have turn down the radio when she were asked. My grandson is 9 years old. He's a really great kid! I know that when I suggest something in my opinion in reference to my grandson it always ends with a problem with she and I. She will say "this is exactly why we moved out" to "I'm not going to talk to you about this!"

I just need advise and opinions please... She's very selfish with her wants and needs. She always has been... This incident is one of the many but would be the latest incident. I would just like to have some opinions please?

Thank you...