Why are old people so selfish?

What a totally naive and uninformed opinion. All that has happened has been the result of various policies, by governments we did not all vote for. Yes some older people are now comfortably off, mostly due to very hard work throughout their lives, they have a wonderful lifestyle which they deserve, but a large proportion live alone on the state pension, and can afford no holidays, or visits to children/ grandchildren who do not live near, they buy clothes from charity shops and just pray the house does not fall down on them through lack of maintenance, before they die, and these people also worked hard throughout their lives, many still working into their 70's.
It is true that the NHS spends a lot on old people (hip, knee and catarct operations currently make up the biggest surgical cost), but the cost of not doing them would be even greater as more people would need nursing care - or should we be put down instead?

Pebbles in a pond TerriBull

oops spokespe, I meant spokesperson,

The inimitable poster known as ALLYOUNGPEOPLE has not seen fit to send a spokespe from his/her all encompassing multi personas representing the entire younger generation, to defend, respond. elaborate, clarify his/her allegations. Just a wind up then

GandTea no doubt he will get some spray paint and do some graffiti on your head stone

When all's said and done the vote was very close and if young people were interested in their future then more of them should have turned up at the polling stations and used their right to vote!! As for the assumption that people over the age of 55 all voted out then they are badly misinformed.

According to data released by the LSE, 64% of 18 - 24s voted in the referendum as opposed to 90% of the 65+ age group. As I probably wouldn't say, 'Go figure'.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/09/young-people-referendum-turnout-brexit-twice-as-high

LOL, when he has worked for 40 years, he can talk to my headstone.

we may be old but we still have a future! I for one voted out!

I don't own a house or get a state pension yet. However I worked from the age of 15 and paid National Insurance and tax.

In fact as I have a small private pension (which I did without to pay for) I still pay income tax.

When you've lived your life, worked for 40 years, brought up a family, paid your taxes and saved for your pension then we can discuss anything you think I'm to blame for. Until then think how you can live your life. Do you have a job? If not, find one. It doesn't have to be full time or a career. You can work whilst you seek what you really want. Start saving for a mortgage. You may not be able to afford your dream house but I doubt most people buy that the first time. Don't forget to pay into a pension scheme because the state pension will not be sufficient to live on.

When you start/go to work remember that the workers rights you have like shorter hours, guaranteed breaks and paid holidays are all there because previous generations fought for them.

I voted to remain btw.

His Mummy probable told him he had to tidy his room before he could play Pokemon Go and now he is having a sulk

Absent, that's exactly what I thought when I read it in the middle of the night and I just couldn't take it seriously enough to get angry. And I voted remain.

I think you have chosen your name badly AYP. The young people I know are far more knowledgeable and open minded than you.

Whilst I deplore the message content I am surprised at the depth of feeling in younger people over the Brexit. My young adult grandchildren stayed up to check the results of the referendum and were very well informed about the details. We do need the younger generation to participate in running the country and not opt out. These messages are clearly not the way forward but perhaps we need to work at a solution together instead of the blame game.

I'm having trouble understanding why you lay all the blame for these things at the door of the 'old people'? Yes, these things have happened while we've been around. And while anyone over the age of 30 has been around. But if you insist it's our fault because we've been around the longest, then let's consider the other things that have come along in that time that you can thank us for:

-Computers
-Tablets
-Mobile phones
-Smart Phones
-Social Media
-Instant messaging - we had to actually phone our friends' landlines, and one of their parents would answer the phone. Or we had to go to their house and actually knock on their door to speak to them.
-Xbox
-Play station
-Sat navs
-Colour TV - in fact any TV!
-Satellite TV with 100s of channels, 24/7 - we had 2 channels if we were lucky enough to have parents who could afford a TV
-Digital cameras - can you imagine having to take a roll of film to the chemist and waiting 5 days to pick up an envelope of 24 photos, most of which were poor quality anyway?
-Cheap flights and foreign holidays (I didn't even go abroad until I was 39)

And many, many more technological advances which your entitled generation just take for granted. Perhaps we could have some appreciation for all these things that enrich your poor little lives?

Trip, trap, trip, trap, over the rackety bridge, perhaps?

When you get up that is!!

As you speak for your entire generation Allyoungpeople, as your user name suggests, perhaps you could throw some light on why 1/3rd of them coudn't be arsed to vote in the Referendum. As you have started threads all over the place, the least you could do is respond to some of the points raised.

Whilst not wishing to blanket an age demographic quite the way you have, you clearly have no idea of the input this generation have in supporting the younger generation with childcare and sometimes the attitude from some young parents in their expectations of how hands on grandparents are expected to be is audacious. I didn't expect anything of my parents in this respect, I took the view that it was my decision to have my children, not my parents.

As others have said here we didn't grow up with many of the technological trappings that your generation have. Our expectations and sense of entitlement were not as evident as they are today.

There are about another 3 threads started like this.

Hey maybe you should check out some of the threads relating to the childcare that is requested, or even demanded from some of the grandparents on this site, particularly when a percentage of those GPs are not in the best of health. A very recent one outlined a request for a week's child caring of a one year old so the couple could float off unemcumbered to Barbados I think I speak for many here but I can't imagine too many of us putting in that sort of request to our generation of parents. If you have perused GN for sometime you would also note how many give up their time caring for grandchildren whlst parents work and how much money we lend or even give to our own children to bail them out financially. Again, the majority of us would not have received help such as this from our parents, I know I certainly didn't.

I voted to REMAIN , I never went to university I never had any opportunities to own my home until I was middle aged I never had a holiday until I was in my late 30 s I didn't own a telephone until I was over 30 I made a lot of sacrifices to bring my children up to a decent standard Not sure what I ve done to upset any young person Thats very ignorant generalisation allyoungpeople maybe we could say all young people drink too much stay in bed all day and are lazy and disrespectful but that would be a massively untrue generalisation also ....My advice GROW UP

HE's obviously not up yet! Unlike all of us oldies who have stolen his future.

I've been joking that I'm the only person I know who voted remain. What's genuinely shocked me is 1) the age of those people I've spoken to who voted out. All of them under 40. I asked my hairdresser yesterday she must be under 30, my own children and their spouses their friends 2) what's really really shocked me is their reason. To a man everyone of them told me it was immigration. They all said they often felt overwhelmed by E.U immigrants where they lived. They blamed immigration on the decline in services. It's made me realise how out of touch I am and worse still how out of touch our politicians are. Their feelings may or may not be true but the fact that they feel they are ignored by our politicians explains why they voted the way they did. It's useless now me telling them that I think their wrong. The really scary thing is what's going to happen when all the promises made by the exit politicians are not met. How will those disillusioned voters react then. Look at what's happening with the raise of Donald Trump type of politician. As for your feeling AllYoungPeople you should have campaigned harder. It's no use stamping your little feet saying " it's not my fault, he/ she did it" don't make assumptions. We have enough politicians who do that and that's is why we're out. They assumed the majority of the population would vote to stay. They were wrong as are you.

And we didn't have mobile phones and other high tech things too numerous to mention.As children we did not have the luxury of foreign holidays,proms and a wardrobe full of clothes. I too voted Remain for the sake of my children and grandchildren. Please don't generalise.