What is a 'typical ' boy?

interesting philosophical thought jings - can sin exist without a God?

IMHO as an unbeliever in any God I consider 'sin' to be an inflamatory term and usually inflamed by the powers that be of many religions. Surely the way to go is the do as you would be done by hegemony. just saying.

I absolutely hate the phrase 'boys will be boys' it seems to excuse poor behaviour just because they are a boy! I don't feel behaviour expectations should be any different to a girl and every child is different, supporting individuality, strengths and skills development whatever they maybe.... Makes a happy child and rounded adult ?

I won't! Why would I? CBA anyway.

lalaland... I'm certain it isn't a sin. Although someone, somewhere, at sometime is bound to try to persuade me otherwise.

I don't think it's a good idea to get into what the bible does and doesn't say about homosexuality. Better brains than ours have been unable to come to any conclusion.

Shall we just let love conquer all things.

#lalalandismyfaveplace

merlot #rackedmybrains

What if what the bible says about homosexuality is bullshit, obi? Plenty of people do think that. Surely you don't expect them to take any notice of something they think is bullshit? Would you?

jingl You've forgotten one.

The original post went out of the window long ago. That's ok. Threads wander.

jingl, you are wicked!

The Bible has the Old Testament[which has things like wearing linen and wool, and eye for an eye] and The New Testament. The New Testament susperceded the Old Testament about 200o years ago! Most people know this.
Masturbation as far as I know is not a sin in either.
Anything else to do with Bible things can be discussed in a different thread if someone wanted to start one.
I dont think it is fair to the OP going as far off topic.

Now, what made me think of them?! Oh yes.

Pugnacious.

I sometimes wonder what other posters, the ones we hear nothing of these days, think on some subjects. What did happen to Alea and Gracesmum?

Oh yes! It was Daphnebroon's post!

What has brought the word "pugnacious" to my mind?

Nope, when I said my lettuce was green that was a statement of fact, if I had eaten red lettuce then that statement would have been true. Homesexuality is not a sin, fact. As DaphneBoon quite rightly says we are quite comfortable leaving some things the bible says behind yet cling to the ones that support our prejudice. I don't see many preachers condemning people for wearing linen and wool, even though the bible says so.

There are some who are born with mixed genders.
I remember in my working days there was one poor lad who was born without a penis, just a hole in his stomach to pee. And I know personally a family whose first son had a variation of this condition. There are other versions, which often lead to 'camp' behaviour.
It takes all sorts, and I sometimes think that G-d had his tongue in his cheek when he gave animals, including humans, the sex drive. He knew it would cause trouble!

Yes as you say, obieone there was lengthy discussion about sin, the Bible, Old Testament attitudes etc with Soontobe, but just as the world has moved on and we (in the West at any rate) no longer stone women "taken in adultery", regard homosexuality as a crime punishable by death, advocate an eye for an eye, regard masturbation as a capital offence, or believe in Creationism, attitudes move on with knowledge. Fundamentalism belongs in the realms of ISIS not our enlightened society.
That is not fashion that is civilisation that is progress

I don't have any problem with homosexuality Lumpy but I also reserve the right to not be dictated to about what is right and wrong....for instance I like red lettuce but you like green...does that mean I can only have green lettuce going forward.

No...it means I can make up my own mind so you making a flat statement that its not a sin should really be prefaced by ...in your opinion. Don't you think?

Yes, obione I'm sure this thread has gone further than the OP anticipated.

The Bible says it is a sin. I dont intend to go into a long debate or discussion about it, as it has been discussed on here about a year ago.

Thanks NanaandGrampy. I was a bit wary of saying it on here, as I didnt see GandTea's original post that got deleted, and there are now so many deletes on this thread[I feel sorry for Oldgoose by the way, as I wouldn't have thought that this is the way she wanted the thread to go at all]that I cant work out what is allowed on gransnet about all of this.

Not queen, though I do look good in a crown. But, homosexuality is not a sin, it's completely natural and normal, that's just stating a fact, like, the lettuce I had today was green.

yes you are allowed to say Obie you can make up your own mind. Lumpy hasn't been made Queen yet

then, not the.

obieone the you think homosexuality is a sin?