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kittylester Thu 27-Oct-16 20:17:52

I've just opened a bag of flour to coat some fish. The bag had been opened previously and sealed with a clip. After I had tipped some on to a plate I noticed it moving.shock I threw it away, along with all the other open (and clipped) bags and disinfected the shelf.

Three questions:

If we had eaten the flour without my noticing would it have done us any harm?

What else do I need to do?

Where do the little b*****s come from?

BlueBelle Mon 09-Oct-23 08:54:52

I m clearly of the sod it personality too Witzend and old lady once gave me a cup of tea and biscuits when I noticed the biscuit was not alone if you get what I mean I don’t know what they were but I wasn’t going to offend her and guessed it would be a bit extra protein 😂

Witzend Mon 09-Oct-23 08:50:00

When I first lived in the Middle East, any bag of flour or dried fruit would have weevils in, and Weetabix were known as Weevilbricks.
I used to keep flour in the freezer and sieve the little frozen corpses out before using. They are not harmful though.

Before one Christmas, I’d managed to find some dried fruit that wasn’t ridden with the things, in order to make some mincemeat (couldn’t buy readymade then.)

But as I was tipping it into the bowl, I did spy a tiny thing moving. But TBH I just thought sod it, and carried on anyway. And I’m usually squeamish, but needs must….

Redhead56 Mon 09-Oct-23 08:40:04

It’s in the grain naturally and can end up in any product made with any grain. Pasta can also come alive I never buy big bags of flour or pasta even though it’s cheaper I stick to small bags/packets.
I worked in a bakery years ago people would be very surprised if they knew what was baked into products. The matter of fact attitude was as its baked it will be not problem for consumers.

Oldnproud Mon 09-Oct-23 08:39:12

DanniRae

I keep my flour just in it's paper bag in the fridge and so far don't think I get creatures in it. BUT I am off to put my glasses on and check....I will report back!

I had been doing that too, for over 40 years, but two or three years ago discovered that 'all' the flour-containing products in my baking cupboard had been invaded by them, including things like custard powder.

Since then, I have been freezing all new bags of flour until the old ones in the cupboard have been used up, in the case of bread flour, it will be in the freezer for several months.

Then last week, when cleaning the cupboard, I discovered that the blighters were back, but hadn't had time to spread very far this time.

As for whether or not my freezing had been working, I am pretty sure that the answer is 'yes', as the likely 'incubator' in the cupboard turned put to be a flour shaker that my OH had plonked in the cupboard months earlier and which didn't even have any sort of lid on other than the shaker top with big holes in it!

MayBee70. I don't know if that answers your question, but I do think that my freezing has worked, but a vigilant eye is also a good idea so that if the critters get in anyway, they aren't given time to spread and multiply.

DanniRae Mon 09-Oct-23 08:06:18

I found nothing alive but it was past it's sell by date so I have put it in a sealed plastic bag and will put straight out in outside bin! I will buy a smaller bag and freeze it before I store it fridge ... just to be sure!! shock

Oopsadaisy1 Mon 09-Oct-23 08:03:26

I have 2 of the old very tall Sweetie jars, one for SR and one for Plain flour.
Never had weevils since the flour was stored in them, but I think you are right, the eggs are already in there, maybe temperature of storage makes them hatch or not.

DanniRae Mon 09-Oct-23 07:52:15

I keep my flour just in it's paper bag in the fridge and so far don't think I get creatures in it. BUT I am off to put my glasses on and check....I will report back!

BlueBelle Mon 09-Oct-23 07:11:05

I think the clue lies in the fact you buy from a flour mill and I and probably most others buy from the local store Karmalady and have no idea how long anything has been hanging around

karmalady Mon 09-Oct-23 06:18:06

I had weavils once, in a different house,when I kept flour in a top cupboard, without special protection. I threw the bags out and cleaned the cupboard. Since then I use lock n lock for every single bag of flour that I buy and have never seen any weavils again. I get my flour direct from a mill and it is very fresh

I do know that some tiny things lived inside a few blueberries that I grew, unsprayed of course. Oh well, they were all frozen and it doesn`t bother me

BlueBelle Mon 09-Oct-23 06:09:00

I think we should be grateful for the extra protein
It wouldn’t bother me but….
I do find flour doesn’t last nearly as long as it used to before getting a sort of light brown film on the top and not smelling fresh yes I keep it in glass containers with sealed lids
but I don’t bake regularly
Guess the answer is to only buy a small packet and use it straight the way

Nansnet Mon 09-Oct-23 05:20:49

Ali08 ... gluten free flour.

Ali08 Mon 09-Oct-23 03:54:05

What is 'gf' flour?

MayBee70 Sun 08-Oct-23 16:07:13

I’m resurrected this thread rather than starting a new one as I’m wondering if all the measures everyone took have continued to be successful. I always check my lockdown stock of flour before I use it and, up till now it’s been ok. But the other day found some weevils in an opened bag of flour and then found them in an unopened one. Even though they’d been in a large plastic container the weevils had spread to other things, even a ziplock containing dentastix fir the dog. I’m currently going through everything. Thankfully I keep most things in tins or containers but, even so I’m finding them in obscure places. I started adding bay leaves to things and then read that they’re toxic to dogs so I’ve had to remove them. I assume I can put the contaminated bags of flour in the garden waste bin? Thank goodness I started to put the dogs kibble in containers after finding a larder beetle in the house a few years ago! I remember reading once that organic wholemeal flour was more likely to have weevils in them so I’ll definitely put that in the freezer!

Wobblybits Fri 28-Oct-16 19:02:05

I suspect it would, but would it harm the flour. I use the microwave to kill woodworm in wood before I turn it, just 30 seconds.

loopyloo Fri 28-Oct-16 18:53:20

Would microwaving kill the eggs ?

NonnaAnnie Fri 28-Oct-16 18:51:16

I will never use flour again, so no baking that's for sure or anything else that requires flour. I still feel sick!

Wobblybits Fri 28-Oct-16 18:41:47

"Weevils are completely harmless to eat " .... tell that to the weevils smile

Christalbee Fri 28-Oct-16 18:34:21

Weevils are completely harmless to eat and most often get into the flour because the eggs are already in it when it's packaged. If you don't use it for a while and it stays undisturbed in the warm cupboard they will hatch and proliferate through all the other things up in the same cupboard. They like some things better than others so you have to search through everything. Even though they are harmless, I would never eat them purposely! Yuk!! I keep all my flour etc in plastic boxes up in the cupboard. That seems to at least protect the other stuff that's up there if one bag has them resident. lol

J52 Fri 28-Oct-16 17:26:10

I had weevils in some quite new flour for the first time this summer. I did some research and came to the conclusion that they are already in the flour and await the right conditions to hatch. I now buy 500g bags, put them in lock containers and use them up quickly.
I'll now put a bay leaf in as well. Thanks for the tip! Another use for the 10ft bay tree ?

shandi6570 Fri 28-Oct-16 17:07:36

Having just made my Christmas cake, it's cooking as I type, I am now wondering if I have any added protein in it.shock

Love this thread, it's making me laugh and learn at the same time.smile

emilie Fri 28-Oct-16 15:59:23

Man picked up biscuit.Weevil popped its head out.Man picked up second biscuit.A larger weevil popped its head out.Man ate first biscuit.Why did you that?It was the lesser of two weevils.

Aslemma Fri 28-Oct-16 15:41:38

As far as I know, in more than 50 years I have never had weevils in my flour, despite only being an occasional baker who keeps flour in a tin in the kitchen cupboard. I do sift it when making cakes but don't usually bother when using it for dusting fish etc.

The other day I bought a rather nice tin from Aldi and told my DIL that the one I had been using had been bought over 50 years ago and produced all the cakes and Christmas puddings since, as well as her 3-tier wedding cake. She made me laugh by begging for the old tin to keep as a souvenir. smile

fiorentina51 Fri 28-Oct-16 15:36:02

The ones I had were tiny little insects, a bit bigger than a full stop. I gathered up a few to look at under a microscope. Quite interesting really.

Badenkate Fri 28-Oct-16 15:25:44

Are they actually weevils or the grubs of pantry moths? Can you see any little moths in the cupboard where you keep the flour etc? These were always a problem when we lived in Switzerland and they sold little tablets you put in the cupboard which would get rid of them. The moths seem to be able to get in anywhere and i got them in coffee, flour, rice until I realised what the problem was.

NonnaAnnie Fri 28-Oct-16 14:05:26

Today I will be throwing out all the bags of flour in my cupboard. I have not used any flour in a while.

OMG! I never knew!

I feel quite ill!

And I will be having a major clean in my kitchen cupboards and purchasing some lock & lock containers too. You learn something new every day.