I think you might have missed the point I was trying to make, ww. I and several others I think, would join in much more 'generally' on political threads if we weren't snapped at so much and told what we think ("it's obvious that you...") or apparently should think because what comes under that should is what is right and no arguing.
I have engaged in conversations with you a few times and I'm not complaining about those. It's the almost inevitable derision from some other quarters that's the problem, being made to feel inferior for having a difference of opinion on a complex subject, or having doubts about something simply because it is complex and one recognises there are no easy answers, sensing an underlying assumption that you are judged as right-wing, stuff like that. Derision and dismissal.
It happens a lot on political forums (both ways), not just Gransnet ones. I'm saying it would be nice to have good debates where people argue points at issue, and don't focus on others' supposed faults.