I agree with everything Bluebelle and Beau have already said.
I feel sorry for the little fella as wont be getting much bonding time with family and grandparents.
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(157 Posts)Interested in others’ opinions on this: my daughter in law is a teacher and therefore just broken up for 6 weeks. My grandson of 15 months is in nursery full time (7.30am- 5.30pm) and will continue to be placed there throughout these holidays in order that she may have a break. Wouldn’t begrudge anyone a break but I find this a little odd, to say the least. Understand that the place has to be paid for regardless but would have expected a combination of nursery and at home with Mum throughout this period. She is a distant mum and my grandson has the strongest bond with my son (acknowledged by her). Post natal depression? Selfishness? Or completely acceptable? Welcome your constructive comments.
I am pretty sure that early years specialists agree that 07.30 -17.30 is too long a day in nursery for a 15 month old. However, sometimes it just has to be if parent is at work, then that is ok. In my humble opinion, the teacher mum may want a rest/break from full time work, but maybe the toddler could also do with a few half days at nursery!
Well here goes I work in a nursery and this happens every year so you are not alone. I fin at end of day and some teacher mums stroll in saying they are relishing ' me time' I've heard it time and time again.myes teachers have the time off but cut the nuresery hours down during the six weeks we re flexible so should you be. I recently had onemum say ' can't wait to have some time off and for yous to keep her here !' Infuriating but it happens every year. Perhaps if they just cut the child's hours down and still had some ' me time'.
My thoughts exactly, Eglantine.
It is the business of the two parents, nobody else.
Maybe she was pressurised into it by the desires of those around her to have a baby in their lives. Maybe she felt she had to give her husband the child he wanted.
Maybe now the thought of being the main/only carer for sIx weeks is pretty terrifying and not what she ever wanted. Maybe the husband should take his holiday and do some full time child care?
Two parents here. Why just bad mouth her?
Ummm......why have children if you really are so happy being apart from them?
Maybe thats her plan as at the moment, she is tired and knows he enjoys where he is going, maybe in a week or so she will change her mind. If not then she is happy he is happy and it has nothing to do with anyone else.
Perhaps she doesn’t want to disrupt his routine. She may have had a difficult time settling him in to nursery when he first started and just wants continuity for his sake. Just speculating.
Personally I find it odd. I do understand the stress and pressure of teaching which is immense and can at times be intolerable. My SIL and DD are teachers but would never entertain putting their children in nursery full time in the holidays. They enjoy family time with their children. However it has to be the parents choice and presumably it works for them and their child.
I see no harm in what your D is doing. In fact this is preparing your GS as he grows older in building his confidence for when he goes into what will be the educational years. I presume his mummy has him at weekends ? How I wish this child care had been around when my own were small.
I agree with you Sielha, it does seem strange for DiL not to want time with her baby. But whatever her reasons are it’s not up to you to question them - just be there when needed, just as you seem to be now.
Gillybob I really, really hope your DD decides to go into teaching if this is what she wants to do (not because it’s a “profession” by the way
). My DD is a single mum and she did just that and loves it and it means that she can be freer for her daughter because she does all her preparation in non-contact time at work or at home when DGD is in bed. It can be worked out.
DS is a director in a firm that has offices all over the world which he has to travel to, he has a commute everyday and he brings work home everyday and is always “available” even on holiday.
IMHO both of my children have stressful jobs.
Cannot for the life of me understand a mother not looking forward to spending time with her baby in her holidays. Doesn’t matter if she’s a teacher a baker a candle stick maker, she’s a mother first and foremost.Maybe she can only cope when your sons around ie evenings and weekends.Clearly not that maternal, if she was she would be enjoying quality time with him watching him develop. Could you have a word with your son and get his views on how he feels about it.Feel sad for little baby really as nothing better than mother’s love.
Am curious to know - has everyone just dismissed attachment theory now - ie that babies need a consistent relationship with one or two people for their emotional well-being. This is something which cannot be provided by daycare. I am always surprised by the dash to nurseries for young babies rather than using childminders, nanny/nanny shares (or dare I say it - grandparents!) under the spurious notion that babies need “socialising” - they don’t - they need one or two people who can give their full attention and love to them. So in answer to Sielha- however tired her DIL is from teaching I think she needs to dig deep and give that baby what he won’t be getting in term time.
Mind your own business.
I don't see it as much different to the many threads I see here about parents needing date nights, etc, and expecting the grandparents to do the bulk of the running around after their children, along with babysitting, school runs, and so on.
Why bother having children?
Bluebelle I am with you. No matter how I try I cannot fathom why people have children knowing they will be farmed out for looking after and costing a lot of money . Part time would be a compromise. School teachers are not the only workers who have work to do out of hours or holidays. I worked for a local authority and can assure you my day did not stop at 5 pm, weekends or holidays. Most work nights it was 12.30/1 am got to bed and that was DH making dinner etc. Perhaps DIL could have GS on a Friday and Monday making a long weekend together. Is the family having a holiday together at least? How DIL manages life is her choice, to me though she is doing a thoroughly awful job of parenting.
My DGS’s lovely teacher goes to visit family in America at every school holiday . She’s there for the entire 6 weeks this summer . I don’t begrudge her in the slightest she’s lovely. But she obviously doesn’t work during her holidays . Having said that as OldMeg said up thread I’m “not a professional “ so probably shouldn’t have an opinion .
Off thread I realise but believe it or not running your own Engineerring business really is a 24/7 job . I can’t remember the last time I was completely away from work.
Returning to thread I really can’t think of an excuse for putting a child in nursery full time while on a very long 6 week holiday from work . The poor child.
I agree with Bluegal re teachers. After working in a school some year's ago (not as a teacher) I get a bit fed up with reading the moans about stress. What other occupation is there where you never work longer than six weeks before having a week off? And before I hear that they work during the school holidays, I did know a teacher who had another job during the summer break, hiring deck chairs on the beach! Another young teacher I know has just gone camping in France for six weeks with her family. Nice work if you can get it.
My daughter in law is also a teacher. Our grandchildren will attend nursery two days a week over the holidays. They enjoy it, and mum needs a break. If it has to be paid for anyway why not send them full time if that what she wants. She will be a more relaxed mother that way.
There is still satisfaction and, dare I say it, fun to be had in teaching. The sooner we lose the tick box mentality and constant meddling by government the better.
Interesting that OldMeg has such a high opinion of teachers. I was reluctant to stop after over 50 years and am still a Beanstalk Reading volunteer in a school.
If Westminster loosened the reins and trusted teachers to use professional judgement again things might improve all round.
Keeping small children in existing routines helps them. 6 weeks away from nursery at 18 months of age is likely to make it very difficult to go back to the previous long days when a teacher parent returns to work. It's likely this mum will drop off later and pick up earlier but it's up to her and her partner, not to any judgemental grans here to decide.
I work as a nursery nurse . It depends on the child but for any very young one it is a long day . Maybe half days would enable the volume of teachers work to be addressed then take the child out in the afternoon . Even pick up early ? We have high tea at 3.15 pm so by 4pm all are fed .
I think it is sad and I was a teacher. However you just need to let it go and keep quiet.
I’m not a teacher but my sister went into teaching at secondary school level after years of running a small business.
She didn’t say that teaching was a doddle but couldn’t quite understand why her fellow workers seemed to find it so hard! Just saying really , like quite a few others that teaching is not the only demanding occupation.
I admit that by the end of term I would imagine that most teachers feel like having a little lie down. Surely the fact that the mother is young enough to have a very young child means that after a rest, maybe a week, she would have got some energy back.
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