I worry she has no playmates

scarletina; slap cheek; hand, foot and mouth; fifth disease

The list goes on.

There is no benifit to exposing a child to chickenpox or whooping cough!

[sigh]

they have a vaccine against chickenpox which is not routinely offered in the UK, which I think would be a good idea.

there is a vaccine against whooping cough if parents take the offer up.
I thought you would know that.

Vaccination is not at all the same as contagious exposure. Not at all.

She is out when she’s at your house. Don’t worry about it, she’ll have plenty of time to pick up and spread viruses when she goes to school! My GC always enjoyed being with me, and I really don’t think they’re as bothered about other children as we think. As long as you’re all right and coping, just enjoy ?

I think what we all have to keep in mind here is that it is not OP's decision as to what is in the best interests of her GC. That is left to the parents.

Choosing not to enroll a child in a nursery, playgroup, preschool, etc. at 3 years old does not constitute child abuse or neglect.

Therefore, there is nothing to discuss, really.

I will ask my question again making sure I use the exact title Why are you so anti and angry sounding about playgroups Notanan You ve now made 16 posts in this thread
If the child doesn’t mix with other children either in a nursery, playgroup, early years , or any other toddler group experience simply because she’s not allowed to catch colds then she will simply catch them all in her first year at primary school plus more
I think the parents are being very short sighted and a bit selfish to deny her socialisation with peers and need to rethink their parenting

I will ask my question again making sure I use the exact title Why are you so anti and angry sounding about playgroups Notanan You ve now made 16 posts in this thread

You are directly asking me to post and then criticising me for posting???

Bluebelle

It doesn't matter what you, OP, or anyone else thinks of their parenting.

There is no indication that this child is being abused or neglected in any way.

Not socializing a 3-year-old with other children is hardly a reason for a child being placed in care or on the at risk register.

Therefore, it's none of OP's business.

And no I am not "anti" preschools.

agnurse True
But I am inclined to agree that a child who is isolated from other children because there are no other children in the family and they spend all their time with adults could find it difficult to socialise when starting school.

The child is not in isolation!

It is taken out and about!

Just not to (entirely optional) concentrated groups of single age corhort preschools/playgroups etc

There may be no benefit to catching chickenpox but I remember my children having it when quite young and coping well. My SIL wouldn't allow her children who were a similar age near mine. When they did get it quite a few years later they suffered much more and one had to be hospitalised.
There is a playgroup quite near where my GCs live.

The point is though that it is a decision for the parents to make.
And no-one else.

OP it might not be ideal but she is with you and you love her.
That is priceless.

Callistemon how judgemental!

The thread is about my DGD mixing with other toddlers and whether she is missing out by not attending voluntary mother and toddler/pre school or whatever it is referred to nowadays.

Just to clarify she is not in solitary confinement in case her parents catch a minor ailment. Where is the shame in being a decent working parent? DGD is fully vaccinated btw, happy and healthy.

How many of us have memories of being aged 3?

Well, notanan I have several times said how spending my very early years in such a situation affected me. I am very much doubt if I was/am unique in this so it could affect this child.

There were plenty of adults in my life, three adults and a younger sister at home. More grandparents with a large family of young adult aunts and uncles always around and willing to spend a lot of time with their two little nieces and cousins a bit older than me whom I saw only on occcasion as they lived some distance away.

But none of this fills the gap of socialising and learning the instinct social skills within a group of similar aged children. These skills are essential.

Because everyone who DID go to playschool/preschool/nursery/playgroup is a social butterfy right?

M0nica

Actually, at this age, I wouldn't call those skills essential. This child is only 3 years old. She is only just reaching a point at which she is starting to understand that people other than her have feelings.

Keep in mind, too, that requiring children to play only with children of their own age is actually a very artificial distinction. First of all, in a family, unless you are one of a set of multiples, there is no other child your own age. Not to mention that in the workforce we don't usually require people of similar ages to work together. She's being socialized by being around her parents and other adults. In fact, the evidence is demonstrating that quality serve and return interactions with a responsive caregiver is the single most important factor in brain development for children.

agnurse I just know that I suffered from not mixing with other children except on very rare occasions until I was 5. faced with a bunch of children of my own age +/_. I knew no more of them than I would faced with a cage of small animals. I had no idea how to speak to them, what we would have in common or how to integrate with other children my age. How to mix with them in the informal way and how to build up friendships.

My first five years were spent almost exclusively in the company of adults and I assumed other children would act and behave like they did - and they don't.

I might add, that a good relationship with supportive adults is certainly essential but from the age of 5 - 18 one spends more time with ones peers than with adults. I usually got on very well with adults, I was used to them, how their minds worked and what kind of response they wanted from me. Faced with other children, of any age, I was up the creek without a paddle.

Ha!

I am not being judgemental in the slightest Foxglove.

Your post is not very understandable when you say that her parents' jobs are safety critical and they cannot take any form of meds and will lose attendance allowance
What does that mean?
You then go on to say that, after she caught a cold they have requested that she does not mingle with other children.

Then say she is not in solitary confinement in case her parents catch a minor ailment.

Well, I didn't say she was as she could catch a cold from anyone she comes into contact with.

I'm confused - is anyone else?
Is this one of those threads?

how many of us have memories of being age 3

Why are you worried then?
The essential thing is that she is safe, happy and with someone who loves her and she is enjoying being with you.

It's a shame she started making friends at playgroup but that is her parents' decision to stop her going.

I don't understand why you took her to a different playgroup and not back to the first one, where they may have got over their colds.

This just isn't making sense to me, sorry.

I m very confused too callistemon a child can catch a cold from an adult as well as from another child A child can catch a cold in a bus, a restaurant, a playpark, anywhere
It all sounds so strange and where on earth did the taken into care or put in the at risk register come from ....this thread is gathering legs at a rapid speed