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No kissing my baby

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phoenix Sat 11-Jan-20 21:54:18

Swapping saliva causes tooth decay and premature dental issues [h

Luckygirl Sat 11-Jan-20 21:51:24

They should not kiss the baby - and they should understand why - even though they are in their 70s!!

I am sure that they would not wish the baby to be similarly afflicted.

Cold sores can only be brought on by stress or anything else if you already harbour the virus - one is a cause, the pther a trigger.

Chewbacca Sat 11-Jan-20 21:48:41

I've never known anyone kiss a child on the mouth. Top of their head, cheeks or forehead, yes, but never their mouth.

Naty Sat 11-Jan-20 21:46:34

Thank you for the answers!

My MIL is actually beloved and quite loving. I'm going through a period of boundary setting, though. I know it can't be easy for my husband's family, either.

Sara65 Sat 11-Jan-20 21:45:22

I would never purposely kiss a baby on or near their mouth, but my one year old granddaughter loves to lunge at you with her big wet open mouthed kisses, hard to avoid!

ladymuck Sat 11-Jan-20 21:43:58

I think you're being wise. My husband suffered from cold sores because an aunt kissed him when he was a baby, (or so my MIL told me).
You can't be too fussy when it comes to baby's health.

Liz46 Sat 11-Jan-20 21:40:43

I think that cold sores can be brought on by stress. I used to get them but have not had one since I retired over 10 years ago.
However, I have never kissed my grand children on their mouths. I usually kiss their forehead.

MawB Sat 11-Jan-20 21:40:34

Does anybody actually kiss babies on the mouth?
I fail to see how saliva can get into a baby’s mouth from a kiss on the top of the head (which is what most people do)
Yes I do think you are being a fairly typical new mum, but don’t let your over-protectiveness tip over into paranoia.
This is another example of the tension you feel with with your in-laws, referring to your MIL as “beloved” says it all.
Fair enough to say no kisses, but you can’t wrap your baby in cotton wool throughout her toddler years or when she mixes with other children at nursery or pre-school. She will have to build up her own immune system once she outgrows the immunities she has through your breast milk.
She will develop snuffles, coughs, ear or chest infections and that is an absolutely normal part of growing up.
Cheer up - we’ve all been there!

SpringyChicken Sat 11-Jan-20 21:26:22

No, you are not being unreasonable. I'd be the same in your situation. In fact, I'd check with the doctor to see if it's advisable for the inlaws to handle the baby at all when they have a cold sore.

Hetty58 Sat 11-Jan-20 21:25:34

Not unreasonable, but maybe obsessive and hysterical. The 'no kissing' is a good idea, though. An awful lot of people have HSV-1 - and quite a lot have HSV-2:

www.onemedical.com/blog/live-well/herpes-facts

Sara65 Sat 11-Jan-20 21:20:52

I get cold sores, and definitely avoid kissing my grandchildren when I know ones coming, but otherwise give them lots of kisses. None of them has ever had a cold sore.

MiniMoon Sat 11-Jan-20 21:10:15

My mother suffered from cold sores, but managed to avoid spreading the virus. My sisters and I were cuddled and kissed, but not when she had a cold sore.
My children gave and received kisses from her and neither of them have ever had one.
I think that perhaps you are being rather over cautious, but not unreasonable considering how contagious cold sores are.

Naty Sat 11-Jan-20 21:02:29

Hello everyone. Am I being unreasonable? I've issued a blanket rule to both my own family and my husband's:

No kissing my baby! She's 5 months old.

Here goes:

My husband's family has a tendency of getting cold sores...very rarely..BUT his sister is affected very regularly...severely! Almost every week in the winter, and every time I see them, I scheme and plot to hold my baby and NOT pass her around since I've never had an open dialogue with her or his family about it. I feel stressed, sweaty and shaky whenever she's around my baby with an outbreak because of this.

If my own sister got cold sores, I'd be free to say "Hey, please don't kiss the baby." Or "Hey...be careful she doesnt touch your mouth, okay?" ...because my baby is reaching and touching people's mouths a lot now and putting her hand in her own mouth right after. I had no idea before having a child, but swapping saliva with a young child is a cause of tooth decay and premature dental issues as well..their mouths just can't handle it.

In order to keep myself from losing my mind, I've told everyone via whatsapp message and in person not to kiss my baby. Nobody has ever kissed my baby's mouth. Ever.

My husband's sister kissed her on the forehead and had a cold sore coming the other week. I spotted the redness and when I gently questioned her, almost whispering "you aren't getting a cold sore, are you?"
She said "no...why??? " and then her hand shot up to her mouth and she jumped back..then sat down...it was obvious she'd just forgotten she was getting one at the time.... but my husband's family doesn't talk about a lot of things directly, so it's that much harder for me....
The last time I saw her, that very same redness had turned into a very big cold sore.

This situation has been stressing me out, so I took matters into my own hands as my husband in this regard is pretty useless and
I have explained to his incredulous parents that saliva can get into a baby's mucous membranes (she rubs her own face a lot and can wipe saliva into her eyes, nose and mouth from cheek kisses) even when they are asymptomatic (i.e. not showing any signs of herpes) and cause my baby to get it. At this age, it can be super detrimental to her health.

My beloved MIL said her husband doesn't get them. She flat out lied or she's cherry picking facts. He does get them. HE even said so during that very same conversation. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone where denial is better than fact.

They tried to change the subject but I stood my ground. My husband backed me up and said "Do you understand, mom? No kisses for the baby."

She reluctantly agreed to our request.

His parents had no idea (and still don't believe) that it was even contagious and say it's from stress and not a virus. They are in their 70s, so perhaps they don't know it's initiated by a virus first, and then stays in your system forever.

Anyway, I'm getting reading material on it from gov website and the hospital so they finally believe it. They encouraged me to ask the pediatrician to make sure.

I'm not sure what his sister thinks (I haven't talked to her about it because I don't want her to feel bad AT ALL! Her own 3 kids don't get it, so SHE must know it's contagious. I don't want to alienate her or anybody...just want to keep my baby safe.

My own family understands and is going along willingly. The in-laws, however are trying to say that herpes isn't contagious and that it's from stress.

They've obviously UNknowingly infected their own children when they were young, as their adult kids have had cold sores since childhood (my husband says so). I don't want them infecting my child out of ignorance.

When I decided to finally bring it up to his parents, I made up a phantom friend who almost lost her child to meningitis brought on by herpes because I knew they'd be incredulous. They told me "no..not herpes! Herpes can't do that." I said very pointedly that it can cause blindness in babies, meningitis and encephalitis. I know that these are rare complications, but my child is STILL very vulnerable.

So I have said NO kisses for baby! They've reluctantly agreed, but I feel like the bad guy.

For the record: I do not have HSV1, but I kiss my baby on the head or anywhere else she can't transfer the saliva into her mouth (rarely do I kiss her face, but I'm extravagantly affectionate in other ways). My husband is well aware of the risks, and does the same. Am I being unreasonable?

Thank you.