Covid italian mother-in-law

Yes, I heard that a little while ago, Missfoodlove

Are you going to stay in Switzerland rather than risk coming back to the UK?

www.altnewsmedia.net/news/corona-virus-exclusive-why-italy/

This is a why.

You wouldn't mind being dragged out of your home then Gagajo?
We've had news from someone in Wuhan and it was not good. Perhaps ex-pat foreigners are treated better though.

At least the Chinese threw everything into curbing it. I'd feel much safer there, than the UK.

That 'herd immunity' argument is BS. No one had herd immunity from smallpox or TB, did they? We had vaccines.

I don't know what you are being told giulia but news from Italy doesn't look good from here; they do not appear to be coping.

Mind you, it's early days here as yet.

Naty Thanks, but we cannot escape the information on the Coronavirus here. It's on every tv news programme, the radio, in every newspaper, as well as recorded messages at the GP surgeries and hospitals. Sick of hearing about it.

Italians have been ignoring the risks, though, haven't they.

Why is it worse there than anywhere else in Europe? and now has spread out from Italy, with visitors to Italy bringing the virus home to the UK unwittingly and spreading it in schools here.

Naty I am writing from the centre of Italy and, yes, the situation is just as you describe.

If only I could get my dear ones in Britain to take this seriously: my daughter and husband still go out to the pub most evenings. She says if they close the pubs in Britain there will be a revolution and laughs!

My sister gaily left on a trip to Normandy this morning (coach and ferry) to see the Bayeux Tapestry. I felt she was mad to go, suggested she wore gloves on the journey for hygiene reasons. She hadn't even thought of that. Anyway, got there to discover all museums are closed.

Here the doctors and nurses are exhausted. I have seen photos of their faces, bruised and grazed from the masks and protectiveglasses they wear for hours at a time.

However, should I fall ill I would rather be cared for here in Italy than anywhere else in the world.

So, when it returns next year with a vengeance, there will be no herd immunity. What then ?

But Callistemon, they are doing everything in their power to try. They are doing what China did (without the new hospitals).

They're not willingly letting it spread throughout the population.

Sophie Trudeau was here on the 4th March - was she incubating the virus and did she bring the virus to the UK?

Gagajo but Italy has not managed to halt it in its tracks.

Stay where you are, Naty and stay safe, best not to fly like Sophie Trudeau did! She could have caught the COVID-19 anywhere.
Babies and young children apparently do not seem to be so susceptible to the virus.

Some sensible posts on this thread, Bluebelle, MawB.

I think far more people have had this than we realised.

The latest figures from Italy make sobering reading. I felt quite emotional thinking about the poor doctors and medical staff having to let so many die. Their psychological wellbeing must be being compromised along with their own immune systems as they are under such strain.

I guess it had UK written on a little flag MawB

Am I detecting an element of “blame” in some comments- as if we in the U.K. are to blame for Sophie Trudeau’s virus?
Any transatlantic flight carries risks and who is to say where or from whom she caught it.

You're still anxious aren't you Naty?

Thank you very much. I wish you well.

The Prime Minister of Canada's wife has covid from the UK!

You aren't in Italy's position yet.

The governments need to respond quickly and people need to take this into their own hands through social distancing as much as possible.

Well said, Hetty.

lemongrove, very true 'we are not in the same position as Italy at the moment'. No we are not:

'We have half as many intensive care beds per capita as Italy has' (Dr Ron Daniels, NHS ICU Consultant)

..and yet our government still fails to take appropriate action. Why are 3000 Madrid fans coming over to Liverpool - just for a football match? It's insane!

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-mps-gary-lineker-question-17905004

Naty Thank you for that. We are aware of the situation in Italy, although it isn’t anywhere near as bad as that here but I’m erring on the side of caution and staying put as much as possible and even keeping away from my grandsons as much as I can. My sons and friends think I’m overreacting but I’m taking this seriously.

Agree entirely MawB no question about it imo

We SHOULD be doing what Italy is doing. Halt it in its tracks.

We may not wish to think about this but the “three wise men” protocol of rationing care or treatment when there are insufficient resources has existed long before now. I believe it was first developed during the 2009 Swine flu epidemic. Under it three senior consultants in a hospital may give priority to those who are most likely to benefit or make a recovery.
An uncomfortable thought, but who among us has not thought or said in the past that they would wish their children (and now grandchildren) to receive treatment before ourselves?