do you know anything about immunity?

Latest only this week is that immunity only seems to last up to 3 months.

Ask a doctor....a doctor would know or point you in the correct direction to get the information.

I had a flu jab in late January. If I have had covid, which is possible, it was relatively mild.

This is what had happened in, I think, China, where people tested positive for a second time. And it is a virus that can linger for a long time with symptoms re emerging again.

I’ve seen it reported that people who have a second dose of Covid19 may not have fully recovered and have relapsed. That could be likely with someone who gets ill again in a short day period possibly.

That’s interesting Furret, I was a little concerned about blood groups because myself, my husband, and all three adult children are blood group A.
I saw something the other day (don’t ask where, I’ve forgotten) which said high BP is no longer thought to be a risk factor, assuming it’s treated I suppose. Other underlying conditions are still a risk factor though.

Yesterday’s paper - a man who was hospitalised with Covid and recovered, caught it again 10 days later. Does this mean that when there is a vaccine we will have to keep taking it?

I think it is here to stay. We can take reasonable precautions, but we may have to choose between living with an increased chance of death from outside forces, or shutting ourselves up for the rest of our lives.

Reading through this thread I noticed that many people start saying that they have read something scientific. Maybe that is part of the problem. No scientist ever "proved" anything but showed "indications" that can be disproved by other scientists.

My grandmother told me, many decades ago, that Spanish flu was caused by a soldier coming home from war and giving the flu to his family, and killing them, as punishment for allowing him to go to war in the first place. My (step) grandmothers brother and fiance were both killed whilst at war as they, apparently, deserved to be. She would then say "daft s*ds" of the people who said this sort of thing.

When this pandemic is studied in decades to come I wonder what social scientists will think of us.

Personally I am in isolation and I am not coming out of it until I am good and ready. I would like to claim that I do not want any NHS staff to go on viral overload and die because of me but actually I think this virus sounds like a horrible way to go. I would rather slip away quietly in my own bed.

I don't think there is any sign of flu or flu vaccine making any difference to coronavirus either positively or negatively. They've probably not had a chance to gather any evidence, since the pandemic only really got going after the flu season was over.

From the information I have read I fear covid19 may be like noro virus and having one episode will not protect you from the infection the next time you are exposed.

I also read that it seemed to be a short term immunity - by that I mean maybe as little as 6 months.

I read flu vaccine doesn’t work so well as you get older anyway. Thanks for making us aware Furret that it may be a factor for Coved. As you say we will have to discuss this further as more info comes out and then decide about flu jab.

I have just read that trials for Oxford Covid vaccination first phase are showing it promotes the production of antibodies and T cell’s to fight the virus. Sounds promising but still a way to go even if they do say it will be ready in the Autumn. I feel a bit like ‘Allo Allo’ -trust no one.

Will definitely be having my flu vaccination, and so will DH.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Just had another report sent through which says blood group is not an indicator of risk!

In fact it might be that this is discussed and explored in detail on GN before the flu season, so we can all make informed choices.

Thanks Furret. It is a worry given that there is talk of a mass flu vaccination programme this autumn. Many people were vaccinated in Lombardy and look at how the pandemic took hold there. I really don’t know what to do.

So I'm 70, blood group A, and on BP medication!

That is the general consensus among scientists and medics EV ie the biggest risk factor is age.

Up to age 50 I'd imagine you'd have a certain amount of immunity but beyond that it's sketchy and the older you are the less the chance. This is the way I see it anyway.

I've got no chance if I have another bout of what I had in December which lasted the best part of 6 months and even now I'm certainly not as I was this time last year.

MerylStreep

If what I had last Nov/Dec wasn't coved it was doing a bloody good impersonation ?

Flu does a very good impression

A team of European scientists has found that two genetic variations may show who is more likely to get very sick and even die from the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection. Further, they found a link to blood type, suggesting that some people are predisposed to COVID-19 severe disease.

The study findings, published in The New England Journal of Medicine, shed light on why some people have a higher risk of being infected with the coronavirus and developing worse symptoms.

In three completely separate studies, researchers from Columbia University, Iran's Mazandaran University of Medical Sciences, and various Chinese institutions all arrived at similar findings.

If what I had last Nov/Dec wasn't coved it was doing a bloody good impersonation ?

There is some anecdotal evidence from Italy (I think) that some people who have had the Covid19 virus and recovered have had a recurrence of the virus.

Greeneyedgirl
I also had that thought about the common cold. It is also covid I have read and many catch a different strain (a cold) fairly frequently.

And blood group A again! Yet I read that this blood group in rare among people of Afro Caribbean and Asian origin who have been disproportionately affected by Covid!

March 2020!!!