Garden fence, should I? ?

In other words, why not stick to your natural home, Grandad, giving of your considerable experience on the political threads?

phoenix

Just to add, Grandad1943 you have added another thing to be thankful for to my list, one being that I'm so glad we are not governed by Donald Trump, and the other that you are not my neighbour, and to save you the bother, yes, I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

Will that suit you, or do you want to have another dig?

Phoenix, Donald Trump and such, I really do not know what you are talking about in the above post???????

Really? I would have thought it was pretty obvious!

However, if other posters don't get my meaning, then I will be happy to explain.

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Callistemon, contrary to your above posts I rarely "pop up" on Phonenix threads.

Indeed only yesterday a Phoenix thread had at least two posts deleted without any involvement of myself. So, obviously not all forum members "enjoy" Phoenix "quirky" threads.

I will now return to the news and Politics section as you request Callistemon

Deleted because it repeats a previously deleted post.

Oh Grandad1943, please dotry to get your facts right, there's a dear! It wasn't my thread that had posts deleted, it was posts I had made on someone else's thread.

Tsk, not like you to be so inaccurate, I've often thought you keep some sort of record of posts, as you once referred back to one of mine from months ago.

I will now return to the news and Politics section as you request Callistemon

I'll look forward to reading your informative posts over on N&P, Grandad

Going back to the original post.

In the U.K. fences generally belong to one side or the other unless an agreement defines joint ownership. For practical reasons joint ownership causes problems because it is difficult to force the other side to pay if they don’t want to.

Defining property boundaries clearly is every owners responsibility to stop neighbors claiming it as theirs, particularly for older properties. Older properties often are not registered and rely on old plans which are often wrong, so get it registered and mark boundaries. A fence, a hedge or a line of trees

Neighbors moving boundaries is common, and once they register it as theirs it’s gone!.

Hello all,

Just checking to see if anyone other than Grandad1943 had any trouble understanding my post of 19.52?I

Thank you.

Callistemon, Quote [We have read threads about people in your office, especially about a young man who came to work dressed in an inappropriate t shirt and jeans, easily identifiable if anyone cared to bother, and how you managed to get rid of him. Might I suggest, therefore, that you are in no position to criticisephoenix'slighthearted remarks.] End Quote.

Callistemon, in regard to your above quote, the young employee was not dismissed due to his dress attire, but due to the fact he lost his driving licence due to drinking and driving. Holding a current driving licence was part of the contract of employment he held with our company and without such he could not fulfil his job role with us.

However, since you demonstrate such interest in the matter, you may be further interested to know that the young person is now back with us due to the fact that we have been extremely busy due to the Covid-19 crisis. He is working in the office operating alongside the legal secretaries on a temporary contract.

So, we have taken him out of unemployment at present, and what happens in the future will be decided in the future. I am told he is doing a fine job and seems very happy in the role he is carrying out.

Actually, I think the posts could be the problem.

The fence posts, I mean. If they have rotted below the ground then the fence will lean.

phoenix rather than asking a company to give an estimate do you know a couple of DIY fellows? They would be a lot cheaper. I would look at cheaper panelling as well.

The cost of that job and others mentioned here really shocked me but I appreciate 30 feet is long in fence life if that makes sense.

Well, Lara Gransnet I have tried to respond to the email from GNHQ, but apparently it's one of those "no reply" ones, so not very helpful, really.

I have had a similar but different issue with a neighbour whose garden backs on to the side of ours, well part of that side as in fact the fence down that side of the garden belongs to 4 different households, thank god they have not all put up different fences!
Anyway, this man is a bit of a bad tempered bullying sort , having a reputation as such although his wife is the sweetest woman. Having passed the time of day quite civilly with me during lockdown I decided to be brave and asked him very sweetly if he had noticed that one of “his” panels was beginning to come apart- he has some big shrubs on his side and I thought perhaps he hadn’t seen it. Expecting him to be awkward I suggested that while I knew it was his responsibility, if it was a problem I was prepared to go halves. That hit his “amour-propre” and he said how he was planning to renew the posts and replace the panels (he has 4 I think) “in due course”, but in the meantime he effected a very acceptable repair to the panel! I do to stomach his political views which are to the Right of Genghis Khan, but into each life a little rain must fall...
10: years earlier and along the same fence we realised that a post was crumbling away when we had a new patio laid in that corner of the garden. That neighbour was fine and I think quite grateful when we said that if he provided one of those concrete supports we woukd have it fixed in when the slabs were going down. It meant it was on our side as his access was not easy, but we were all happy with the solution.
So it probably comes down to who has responsibility for that fence plus perhaps some negotiation.. If it is you, you may have to bite the bullet and replace or mend it, if shared, you split the cost and if it is his,you may have to put up with wonky.
Concrete supports at the base of each post might do a good enough job of straightening them and strengthening them of course.
PS I fail to see how a thread like this could have become contentious!

“I had to stomach”...

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All together now! One, two, three.........!
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Materials, it’s easy to erect a cheap fence but it won’t, last the cheap wooden posts will break off in only 5 yrs in some soils. If you use concrete posts and good quality panels it will have a 25 yr life

It might be a little tricky asking your neighbour to contribute to a new fence seeing as how he paid for the last one. The cost seems fair to me it cost us around £800 for our fence but our neighbour contributed half towards a new fence. On another matter it was noticed our new fence has taken a good six inches off our garden by installing it into our garden I’m not happy about that but under the circumstances I can live with it - for the moment anyway Good luck I’d want a fence ready to fall down repaired else let it fall then go to the neighbour to contribute they might see the point in contributing

phoenix

Well, Lara Gransnet I have tried to respond to the email from GNHQ, but apparently it's one of those "no reply" ones, so not very helpful, really.

Was it one where you rated GNHQ dealing with the situation as not good Phoenix I wonder?

Elizabeth 1, he didn't pay for it, just put it back up.

Furret, I didn't use the rating option, just tried to reply to it.

I have always assumed that I would pay for a new fence,whichever side of the garden it was on,if I was the one bothered by the appearance of it.
I do appreciate that the costs involved may be too much for many people to pay.

but is now leaning quite badly.
Does it have a list to port or starboard?

ie if there was a westerly gale, would it blow on to your garden or his?