What can we expect from tomorrow's announcement?

I read that MissAdventure what is wrong with people? Do they think that the rules just do not apply to them?

Meanwhile, my local paper has reported a sit down wedding reception with 80 guests being visited by police.

It doesn't help when retail outlets aren't very cooperative. I watched people entering my local Lidl yesterday, and hardly anyone used the hand and basket sanitiser. In their defence (?), it can't be seen on entry, you have to look for it, and it is actually behind some displays. When I mentioned this to a member of staff, he said that they were limited in where they can put it. Other stores can have it at the entrance, so I'm not sure why Lidl can't.

I agree I’m in Newcastle and more and more people are wearing masks outdoors especially in busier places. Buses/metros/shops we are all keeping to the rules. It’s up to everyone young and old to keep themselves and others safe. Children are often asymptomatic but millions of them go home to their families every day after school . I think there’s a lot more young kids carrying it than we think

Personally, I have been so disgusted with BBC News, and Channel 4 News, I turned off long ago. Cannot tell the truth from the political distortions.

Should have been; I do not harm others - and being unselfish part of the responsibility.

NannyC2 It is wicked how the North in particular are being treated especially when it was them who helped Boris get into power - look how he has repaid them!

How is he supposed to "repay them" in your view, NannyC2? Let them all die of Covid by not protecting them?

Please show a link to your statement re the alleged WHO comment re flu.

Dentists also now reporting that Face Masks are causing Decaying Teeth, Receding Gum Lines and Seriously Sour Breath.

It's not the wearing of face masks causing this,NannyC2 but the lack of dental checkups and treatment for 4-5 months.

Of course the Government have been leaking to the press (not so much leaking) because where do you think a lot of the press get their funding from? Letting the nation stew is part of keeping up the fear. I heard about a couple more people committing suicide because they cannot cope with what is happening.

It is wicked how the North in particular are being treated especially when it was them who helped Boris get into power - look how he has repaid them!

Glad to hear more and more people are turning away from the news - I watch UK Column as they tell it how it is.

Unbelievable - just been reported that the WHO (Accidentally) now Confirm Covid Is No More Dangerous than Flu. Will that curb Boris or change his policy?

Dentists also now reporting that Face Masks are causing “Decaying Teeth, Receding Gum Lines and Seriously Sour Breath.”
Nothing will be done until more people speak out - the tide is beginning to turn!

*Doodledog* The elderly and/or compromised of Newcastle (or any where else) should be shielding there not travelling to other communities posing a possible risk.

I have been shielding for almost ten months, and without the help from my community could not have managed. It is my responsibility to keep myself safe as much as possible, and also my responsibility to ensure, as far as possible, I do harm others - and being unselfish part of the responsibility.

That is my view.

*Missfoodlove*: I thought we used Jungle Drums!!

To be fair, though, sparklingsilver it's perfectly understandable that people living in Newcastle (or any other city) who are elderly or compromised might want to head for rural villages fifty miles away where things are safer, isn't it? I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to stay put and risk infection in order to keep safe areas safe for other people. They might, but that sort of behaviour is pretty rare - I'm thinking of the village of Eyam.

I don't think that people moving into villages is any more selfish than expecting them to stay put in areas of high infection is, to be honest.

Fortunately, my rural village on the Northumberland Coast so far free of Covid19. This, however, more by luck than judgement. When the government began easing lock-down second home owners and tourist descended and the result, not surprising, to find the virus appearing in one or two small rural Northumberland coastal communities. The number in total low and has remained so thank goodness. Elderly and compromised local residents shielding and have been since the end of February. Those in the communities supporting the vulnerable also put at risk by allowing freedom of movement from the country as a whole.

Newcastle upon Tyne, some fifty miles from my village, largely in the county of Tyne and Wear not Northumberland. It is a university city with a large number of reported incidents of the virus among students. Again no one should be surprised since returning countrywide students, combined with a youthful sense of impunity, spreading the virus the inevitable outcome.

I'm tired of listening to the news, tired of people strutting about announcing what should have been done, when we can all be so clever with the powerful tool of hindsight, tired of people knocking the government when they are having to make decisions in hours and days with an ever shifting situation that nobody can predict, decisions that might normally take months and years, tired of the 'entitled' bleating about their personal freedom. Like MOnica I am masked, keeping my distance and washing my hands. That's it for me. 'Overloaded with bad news and drowning in statistics, I am now switching off.

PECS I know - I was aware that my comment was already off topic, so didn't want to derail the thread further. There were various options available (offering courses by distance learning as well as in-person would open them up to more mature students, for instance) but the 'head in the sand' approach of the government just left things to take their course, with the resultant chaos.

Well, we'll know in an hour whether the rumours are true.

Well put Whitewave2
We also need those idiots who ignore covid rules to realise it`s them that are making covid last whilst killing those poor people.

"If students are so concerned about 'the experience' they could have left it for a year, and gone later. I know it's more complicated than that for some," Doodledog it is more complicated than that..if you have even 30% more students deferring for a year what does that do for the next cohort applying next year etc etc. A brave government could have pushed the academic year to start in January....

Margliz.... couldn’t agree more.. 35 years with the bus for me too

Trisher..people in the north not abiding by the rules......naughty.. because people in the south haven’t abided by the rules either!!!

I think everyone just has to go with it whatever it is and stop being negative. It is what it is. No one can change this damned pandemic. New to us all including the government.

Tillybelle Also people living there are so much more friendly and warm-hearted and the people I know in my part I left in Home Counties are so filled with arrogant prejudices about midlands and North!

What a cheek! You are being equally as" arrogant and prejudiced" as you claim Southerners are. Come on! We have university cities too.

Lock people up for 14 days and then let them out to be in contact with COVID 19 and so lock them up to isolate for 14 days then let them out to be in contact with Covid 19 then lock them up . . .
We are mad!!!!
Are there any brain cells within current cabinet/Public Health?

I agree with winterwhite. I get tired of the stereotyping, too - in fact that has depressed me as much as anything else in this crisis. The young, the old, students, Northerners, Londoners, so it goes on and on. It's always someone else's fault, and as often as not the stereotypes aren't based on anything close to reality.

I do think that opening Universities to the extent that students were encouraged to move into accommodation was a mistake. Not because I expect them to be marauding about city centres, but because a sudden influx of bodies from all over the place is always going to cause infection rates to rise. Every year there are more cases of colds, chest infections, glandular fever, meningitis and so on amongst students when they arrive in cities, and even with social distancing measures this is going to be true of Covid, too.

A slightly separate issue, but whilst I do feel for this intake, I also get tired of hearing how they are 'paying £9k for an experience they aren't getting' (on TV, and second-hand via friends with student children or grandchildren). They are getting the education they are paying for, and it is not (and never was) the responsibility of the University to provide 'an experience' beyond that.

As has been said, it is very difficult for staff, and costly for Universities, to provide online learning, and whilst this in itself doesn't make it good, it should be remembered that it actually suits some students better than attendance in person.

If students are so concerned about 'the experience' they could have left it for a year, and gone later. I know it's more complicated than that for some, but anyone expecting a social whirl in the middle of a pandemic is going to be disappointed, aren't they? Of course they aren't going to get 'the student experience', but none of us is getting the sort of experience we'd like just now. It was disingenuous of Universities to take rent from them for accommodation that it could have been predicted they wouldn't need, but again, deferring for a year would have prevented that - if the Universities could have predicted it, so could the students and their parents.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I do get fed up with all the moaning. They knew it was going to cost them £9k, which it would have done if they'd gone any time over the past few years instead of this. They are not missing out on their education, but on social things which are not included in the fees, and the rest of the country is unable to socialise either.

I live in the north i am from Liverpool but live across the Mersey on the Wirral now , we do follow the rules my family and friends look after each other and our neighbours and have done what was asked of us nobody on Merseyside would leave another in need or put them in danger and we might take a bashing but we carry on I am proud of our North, take care everyone keep safe.

trisher You forgot Nottingham! Beautiful Nottingham is only a small city but quite compact with 2 very important Universities.
Interestingly Nottingham University was the only Uni with a campus in Ningbo, China (across the sea inlet from Shanghai, kind of, same part of China as Wuhan) where its students study part of their degree and then come over here to finish. It is built to look identical to the main part of the Uni here. Last Jan before things were bad here, the Chinese Students returned. My neighbour who worked closely with them, first had a very bad cough and chest infection lasting 3 weeks which her husband then had for about 4 days. I had it for about 5 days towards the end of Feb. All before we were told anything or knew anything at end of January through February. Since then we have been very well barring existing health stuff. We did not go to the Doctor, but that is how we are.
In case this looks like a blame-game on the Chinese Students it is absolutely not! Anyway they would have had no idea and probably did not carry the virus anyway! They are a very delightful asset to our community - I live in their post-code - and we are really proud to have this connection with China!
P.S. I have lived in South Eng and North and Mids. They are different! The Uni cities are filled with life in far more cheerful (yes, not objective!) way than south as I remember. Love them!! Also people living there are so much more friendly and warm-hearted and the people I know in my part I left in Home Counties are so filled with arrogant prejudices about midlands and North! They have no idea! I'm sure these people are not on GNet though, really.