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What can we expect from tomorrow's announcement?

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grannyqueenie Sun 11-Oct-20 22:39:47

Bit of a sweeping statement there. I live in the “north” as do most of my adult children and their families...we’re all abiding by the rules...if we weren’t then I could have would have had the family celebration I had wanted for my 70th birthday this weekend...!

M0nica Sun 11-Oct-20 22:36:19

trisher The infection rate was rising in most of these towns and cities well before the university term started.so I do not think students can be blamed for the rise.

Leicester and Nottingham had tighter measures introduced in July several weeks after the university term had ended and months before the new term started. In the North west the new restrictions came in in early September.

As for student lie-ins. DS is a university lecturer, online lectures have to be attended in real time and I understand that there are facilities for interaction between students and lecturer. then there are seminars and tutor group meetings that are done on the university equivalent of Zoom, which again expect students to be present when they happen. Then there is course work which has to be completed to deadlines. Not meeting deadlines mean marks are deducted.So long lie-ins and all day parties are unlikely.

Give a thought also the lecturers having to deal with the complications of putting all their lectures on screen. It is a lot more difficult than simply reading a lecture on screen. Over the summer the universities have been acquiring new computer systems to meet the varying needs of online teaching, lecturers are having to teach themselves how these, often complex systems work and integrate. OK if you are technically minded but some, who are less technical are close to breakdown, living alone and struggling to understand the new systems and with little or no IT support because IT people are busy installing and getting these new systems up and running and often do not fully understand all the new systems themselves.

Hetty58 Sun 11-Oct-20 22:24:45

Msida, isn't it rather too soon to know?

Knittynatter Sun 11-Oct-20 22:21:00

trisher

Has anyone noticed that the cities with high infection rate are all university cites? Newcastle has over 1000 students testing positive. Is it any wonder then that the infection rate has risen? The universities will remain 'open' but all teaching will be on-line, which means of course that the students will be able to party more-no need to get up for lectures!
It's very doubtfull if people in the North will abide by any rules.

‘We’d like to apologies to people in the North. It must be awful for them’
I’m sure people in the north are as capable of following the rules as those in the south. Don’t be so rude! ??

Msida Sun 11-Oct-20 22:19:56

I think alot of people are thinking that now Monica

History has shown us that pandemics usually come in two waves then it goes away

So hopefully after this second wave, which isn't as severe as the last one, it will leave us for good.

I have a friend that is an ICU Doctors and he says that Covid patients have risen somewhat but no where near what it was last time.

Maggiemaybe Sun 11-Oct-20 22:18:16

It's very doubtfull if people in the North will abide by any rules.

I’m not sure what you mean, trisher? I think most of us have so far, confusing and frustrating though it’s been.

Doodledog Sun 11-Oct-20 22:13:39

Do you think that a lot of students will go home (ie to their parents), rather than stay in a hall or flat on their own? I think I would if I were them. I'd be encouraging my children to come home too, if they were in that position.

Students will still have to get up if they have online lectures, and there are rules about being suitably dressed for them (presumably to avoid a sea of pyjamas grin).

I don't think it's at all surprising that infection rates are high in University towns and cities - it was daft to open them in the first place for anything other than online learning.

trisher Sun 11-Oct-20 22:07:32

Has anyone noticed that the cities with high infection rate are all university cites? Newcastle has over 1000 students testing positive. Is it any wonder then that the infection rate has risen? The universities will remain 'open' but all teaching will be on-line, which means of course that the students will be able to party more-no need to get up for lectures!
It's very doubtfull if people in the North will abide by any rules.

Whingingmom Sun 11-Oct-20 21:57:44

It’s not just MPs who don’t think the rules apply to them; it seems a significant proportion of the population think they are exempt. Hence the rates going up.

Doodledog Sun 11-Oct-20 21:54:37

Most universities are 'open' in the sense that students are being taught, but remotely. They are not likely to go back to business as usual before Christmas, and probably not even then.

We have our ruby wedding coming up, and booked a UK city break in a hotel that does not do refunds (it was booked ages ago). Much as I was looking forward to it, I'm rather hoping that something is announced that means we can't go, as I don't want to make the decision between going on a potentially risky break and losing a few hundred pounds.

MissAdventure Sun 11-Oct-20 21:20:44

Pubs in liverpool will be locked down completely, of bits and bobs I've looked at are correct, I think.
I'm sure we're being drip fed what to expect, to save us from rioting at the sheer inadequacy of firm, decisive leadership.

M0nica Sun 11-Oct-20 21:15:04

Frankly my dear, I couldn't give a damn (quote, Gone with the Wind). It neatly sums up my attitude.

We are lumbered with a government that could not organise the proverbial in a brewery. Rules change daily, MPs, of all parties think whatever the rules are they do not apply to them.

No one talks to anybody no-one thinks anything through and every time the government announces new measures it is surprised by the obvious consequences. - if all pubs and eateries close at 10.00pm, there will suddenly be lots of people coming out of them onto the streets all at the same time. I doubt the new raft of measures will be any better

I am now ignoring any news to do with COVID. I wear mask and gloves when out and avoid my fellow creatures. As far as I am concerned the government can make any rules it likes, I couldn't care less.

Oldbat1 Sun 11-Oct-20 21:04:37

My thought is:- Liverpool Manchester and the other really high Covid rate areas to be put on Red ie shut bars, restaurants etc and no unnecessary travel. Other areas with medium high Covid infections like Newcastle and Nottingham to be on Amber ie stay the same as is currently no visiting houses, 10pm pubs closure. Areas like Devon and Norfolk etc remain in Green zone. Groups of 6 permitted.
All schools and universities to remain open whichever zone.

PECS Sun 11-Oct-20 20:46:36

It is an odd tactic..but maybe testing early responses to temper their "real" announcement!

Riverwalk Sun 11-Oct-20 20:19:56

The government have been leaking to the press various scenarios, to soften us up I expect.

It's good to see the Northern elected representatives putting up some resistance.

I do hate this business of briefing the press then letting the nation stew for days.