am I being unreasonable

From my experience, it seems that men are more likely to bend the rules than women. I wonder why this is? You really shouldn’t go, and your husband should understand this.

Half-term is not the same week throughout the country, Nannan2. It is where I live.

Stick to your guns frue, you know you’re right. We are all missing family and friends but why put yourselves at risk when (hopefully) the end is in sight.

So you know that the OP’s family doesn’t include a child under 5 with disabilities, or a baby under 12 months old on 2 December 2020?

How, exactly?

*meant I read your links

Which part of the fact that we are in lockdown does your family not understand and why does not apply to them? I am sure if the visit went ahead and the matter was reported to the police you could and should be fined. Your son should know better and stop the visit.

Maggiemaybe- read your links, OP's family don't appear to be in any of those support categories though.

So, your husband is basically going to stay with your AC and GC for a few days. Not needed for childcare, so why is he going in the first place?
We'd all love to go and visit relatives - mine are 20/30 minutes away and haven't seen most of them for a year.
How many times do the words STAY HOME have to be repeated before people actually get the idea?
You are in the right. Don't text your son, ring him and explain. Texts can be ignored and the tale your husband has told him (sorry guys) be a mumbled incorrect one, no doubt.
I guess you could always put OH into quarantine when he returns !

We have no idea why your husband wants to go? Maybe good reasons? If half term, parents may be very pressed. If there is no response and you suspect they are hurt, maybe there is more to this. We have to keep a sense of proportion and common sense. You don’t say whether the family are out and about and exposed, or relatively risk free, same with husband. Many families are making tough choices. I know one who from the outset have gone in and out of their daughter’s house to help with everything including childcare (has husband working from home) throughout whole pandemic. Daughter has severe life shortening and threatening underlying health conditions, had a stroke during last lockdown, both units have shielded from anyone else, but clearly against the earlier rules. But good on them - they have staved off other calamities.

I too agree and, as it’s not proven that the vaccinated don’t transmit the virus, how would he feel if he brought it back to you. I’d be inclined to tell him not to come back or at least go somewhere to self isolate before coming home.

And no its not half term yet anyway, not in England at least.so kids are expected to be still online for studies.And no you are not being unreasonable but your hubby is.Lets hope he doesn't get a fine eh??

Why even ask? You're not going... decision made

Agree with others it’s not essential travel and if you read gov guidelines it clearly states you must stay in your own vicinity city or town.

Tell your DH about the £600 fine that are being charged for rule breaking . You are not supposed to visit .

If you are in a childcare bubble , you are not supposed to use this to mix socially with the parents ,only to care for child/ren when parents are working.

The OP has said that they are not needed for childcare. It seems like a holiday! Which of course is against the law as we all know at the moment. In any case this is really against the spirit of lockdown and really does seem to be unnecessary travel.

this is tantamount to going on holiday, which is forbidden.
your husband could be stopped by the police and turned around and possibly fined.
just say no.
hold the line OP.

I think you are in the right.

The OP needs to tell us more- it’s silly to keep speculating. When people use the word bubble they should say what they mean.

If, for example, the other household includes a child under one, or a child under five with disabilities, they can form a support bubble with a second household of any size. They would be allowed a childcare bubble in addition.

^ If the son has a wife/partner then surely there is no possibility of a support bubble?^

There is, though. I posted a link to the guidance just above your post.

Your husband and your son are being irresponsible and not abiding by 'what I should do' advice. The trip seems to be for purely social reasons and is selfish.

If the son has a wife/partner then surely there is no possibility of a support bubble? The OP says it’s not a question of a childcare bubble. OP your son and your DH are being irresponsible. Ring your son and give him a good telling off. Tell him and your DH that if DH goes for half term, he can stay there until all lockdown restrictions are ceased and then you’ll consider if you are prepared to have someone so selfish back in your life.

www.gov.uk/guidance/making-a-support-bubble-with-another-household#who-can-make-a-support-bubble

There are lots of incorrect statements and “clarifications” on this thread.

You don’t have to be part of a single household to form a support bubble, you don’t have to live close to your support bubble (though it is advised), you don’t have to be needed for childcare to be part of a support bubble. All the legalities and guidance are set out on gov.uk.

We don’t know from what we’ve been told if the OP’s circumstances meet the requirements for forming a support bubble, so none of us can judge on that front.

Assuming the support bubble is legal though, the question is whether frue is being reasonable in thinking that travelling over to her family is not in the spirit of the guidance. I’d say that if you don’t feel your family really need the support you’d give them by going, then yes, frue, you’re right.

Childcare bubbles now can be a couple