Anyone know if *Iam64* is ok?

Good post Doodledog

(at the risk of posting banalities and agreeing with you!!)

As far as I know EV did no such thing Callistemom she did express her reluctance for the second vaccination due to her medical reaction with the first, as is her right. There have been others refusing the vaccination totally, don’t think they got banned.
It makes me sad, frustrated and wary.

People get banned for lots of reasons; spreading untruths about the vaccines, for instance.

I don't know that EV did that.
If you are insinuating that she did, then someone must have reported her as threads are not routinely moderated.

This is all very sad.

If people whose opinions annoy others get banned, we will be left with a very homogenous (and even boring) site. I can understand HQ banning someone who might cause problems for them by posting extremist posts, or others that break the law, but differences of opinion are just that. In fact, differences of opinion are what makes a discussion site thrive - if we all just posted banalities and agreed with one another there would be no GN.

I sometimes get the impression that to HQ we are a bit of an inconvenience. The facilities (eg ability to edit) we keep asking for are ignored, and it appears that there is no routine moderation, so the only views to get acted on are of those who complain when someone disagrees with them.

How can I put this tactfully? At best this is a 'self-selecting' demographic? They are certainly people who want to shut down the very discussion that keeps GN going - it's most odd that their views are give precedence over the rest of us.

Presumably one's risk of getting banned increases with the number of contributions one makes to the community? Madness. There was talk a while back of someone posting to say that they were a lurker who always reported things that annoyed them, like a secret policeman. That is wrong on a number of levels.

Just because we are, on the whole, a bit older than MN posters doesn't mean that we need to be shielded from disagreement, or to be threatened with the naughty step like toddlers. Isn't that now frowned upon, anyway?

This thread has cleared up a few ‘missing persons’ queries for me thankyou all.
I totally agree that a lifetime ban is a very dangerous thing to impose on anyone without at least one warning.

I'm pleased to find this thread, I do post, but mostly read others welcome contributions.

I notice missing posters, especially when they've not said that they are taking a break for whatever reason.
EllanVannin always felt like a neighbour/friend, having a chat, someone I could relate to.
I remember when she was 80 last year, (about the same time as my sister). Also her family problems "rang a bell" with me, as I also have a DGD with problems, & of a similar age.
I do hope EV is well & OK, ("It's the not knowing").

Keep posting, you "regulars"!!

It always ends this way, doesn't it?

Nice thread about people we miss and it ends up with complaints about trigger-happy reporters and power-hungry moderators.

People get banned for lots of reasons; spreading untruths about the vaccines, for instance.

I can’t think what EV could possibly have said to deserve being banned. Never hurtful or insulting, simply stated her point of view. A deeply caring person, my conclusion is, someone was gunning for her. ? Shameful treatment of a well respected poster
Not uncommon on GN as a few of us have realised, when a poster has been trigger happy with the report button.

muse Sorry to hear your particular innocent question caused you grief. I hope you have managed to move on and not dwell on your upsetting experience.

seacliff
Well said, I agree.

Fair enough to threaten/impose a ban, but surely not forever??? HQ are young and cannot empathise with an older person who's alone. The consequences of a permanent ban could be serious, and HQ should realise that

The generational differences on social media sites are far from being always recognised.
I might throw my hands up in horror at some of the attitudes on MN (although as I don’t actually look at it, I may be wrong here, but we do sometimes get references to MN opinions here on GN) and rarely even look at Twitter as it seems to be st the root of so much trouble. Likewise despite invitations to post on Instagram, I have never seen the point . So in the same way, while a MN or Twitter “ban” or suspension - and I imagine these are for seriously overstepping the lines of what is decent or acceptable - the effect of the same on an (often) elderly person, perhaps bereaved, isolated, lonely, possibly with major health or mobility issues but most of all in need of friendship, cannot be brushed off lightly.

As they say, “been there, got the t shirt”

I agree maddyone, it’s better just to avoid anybody who posts particularly obnoxious responses, you soon get to know who they are. I do wonder though if it’s those people who are doing the reporting, or if there are lurkers who do it, because I do think some of the more abrasive posters do post deliberately provocative things to get the reaction, and it spoils their game if they report?

Sometimes most of us will say something that someone else disagrees with, that’s to be expected. But reporting something should only be done in the rarest of circumstances. There are one or two abrasive posters, thankfully in the minority, but I prefer to let it stand so all can see what they’ve said, but I don’t engage with them any further. There is only one poster I won’t engage with at all, and they’re not on this thread.
Still can’t think what EV could possibly have said.

Thanks Charley, glad to know that Phoenix is doing OK. I never want to be intrusive. I realise some people just stop posting for so many reasons, as is their right of course.

It would be quite hurtful to think that no one even notices you are not around anymore. So best wishes to ALL missing posters. .

I still think a pinned post where you add your name if you are leaving/having a break, (no explanation needed) would be a good idea.

GNHQ should really stop threatening to impose these lifetime bans, it is very cruel and I'm sure it can cause mental health problems for the person concerned. GN is often the only contact they have with the outside world. HQ seem to often act following reporting from just one or two people only, who "have got it in for" someone. That is so unfair.

Fair enough to threaten/impose a ban, but surely not forever??? HQ are young and cannot empathise with an older person who's alone. The consequences of a permanent ban could be serious, and HQ should realise that.

I am very sorry to hear about Ellan Valin, I forgot to mention her with the others I hoped were okay and would come back. She often made interesting contributions particularly with reference to her nursing days many years ago and it wasn't a secret that she was one of the more elderly grandmas on this site. Sometimes she said things that other posters took exception to, of course that is likely to happen when any cross section of people get together, age and life experiences shape us all to some degree. I do hope she hasn't been banned for life, that seems to feed into the pervasive "no platforming" that is prevalent today.

Sadly sometimes posters decide to take a break from Gransnet, for whatever reason. It’s sad when a poster is banned though.

Kalu Asking an innocent question is stepping on dangerous ground. One caused me a lot grief. Sorry you got reported for your's.

I may have been unwise MissA. Fair point.

Like Charley I too joined in 2011 with the username, Agus. On a thread a few years ago, one poster misread my name and thought I was a man called Angus. I was then pursued with suggestive PMs until I changed my username!? Phew!

I often wonder about those posters I enjoyed having a blether with back then. Iam64 and JaneRowena are two I particularly miss.

I can’t remember the excuse given by those who will be obeyed but I received a severe knuckle rapping twice, first time ever on GN, due to asking the one who flies, an innocent question!

Thank you, smileless

Is it wise for the thread to start referring to a particular member in a slightly derogatory way, even by hinting at the username?
I think not.
Just saying, that it usually ends badly.

Very sad about grandmajet.

Great to see to you MissA. Hope you feel better soon.

Cross post Maddy
It's telling that we all seem to share the same puzzlement

tickingbird that's appalling.
I honestly can't imagine what EV could have said that was even slightly inappropriate.
Is anyone in contact with her?

I’m sorry EV has disappeared. I can’t imagine what she’s done to upset anyone, she always seemed very sensible.

^EV told me that she was on a final warning, I guess you have your answer, if your PM was undeliverable. Such a pity! sad
She was in her eighties, living on her own, with lots of family worries. The caring face of Gransnet^

I think that’s appalling and, seeing as GN only act when someone’s reported a post, I hope the one(s) responsible are proud of themselves. The pettiness on here from some on this forum is pathetic.