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Toddler Only Wants To Wee In Garden

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Naninka Thu 12-Aug-21 23:56:37

My daughter-in-law is becoming very anxious about her son (my DGS) because he won't use the potty or toilet. However, he is completely dry, including nights.
So where does he wee? In their garden, in my garden, behind a bush, anywhere outdoors.
He holds a number 2 for his own garden but does likes to see it flushed down the loo by his mummy or daddy.
We have tried everything we can think of!
It's so frustrating and is holding him back from us taking him places like soft play, farm park, etc.
Any suggestions, oh wise ones?
I'm particularly interested to know if anyone else has experienced this with a toddler and how they overcame it.

Paperbackwriter Fri 13-Aug-21 14:02:22

If you've got a compost heap, get him to pee on that. Apparently it helps to break down the stuff!

weeducky Fri 13-Aug-21 14:01:50

I think this is a case of mountain and molehill! He will be fine and I personally think it is better than wetting his pants or the floor. My 3.5 year old GS does it outside and just says I am doing a free wee. He is potty trained uses his potty when indoors with no hastle. Next step is the actual toilet and in my opinion cannot imagine there are many children going to school who are not toilet trained. Relax they grow up so quickly.

adaunas Fri 13-Aug-21 13:53:36

Possibly at nursery or playgroup ‘pee-er’ pressure will make him want to fit in. I know at school children may arrive with all sorts of parental concerns about toileting but the teacher saying go to the toilet before play, before dinner, etc. and 29 children doing exactly that sorts the problem in school in less than a week, though some parents still say the child has problems at home.

inishowen Fri 13-Aug-21 13:52:22

My four year old grandson is going through a stage of peeing everywhere. He sat on a Teddy and did it. I said very little as I think he wanted a response. He starts school in September and may be worrying about it.

JenJenT Fri 13-Aug-21 13:30:56

How about having several strategically placed potties around so that, as soon as he starts, you can whip it out to catch it and just repeatedly say “wees and poohs go in the potty, not on the ground”. Mid-stream, he should hopefully carry on into the potty. He has to learn because a playgroup/nursery or school would surely find this behaviour unacceptable because of the health and hygiene issues. You can mop up a puddle on the floor, but can’t do that with the grass or ground. I wonder how his parents deal with this. How about you, and his parents when at home, reading one of his favourite books to him whilst he sits on his potty to encourage him to feel more relaxed with using it? If he does something into the potty, read some more or give him a small treat. Consistency between all his carers is important, though, when training, even if that means mum or dad has to find the potty if he needs to go, rather than carry on with what they are doing.

Blossoming Fri 13-Aug-21 13:06:31

I read a thread about someone with the same problem recently, but I can’t find it now and it may have been on Mumsnet.

Hope there are enough suggestions here to help the OP.

Callistemon Fri 13-Aug-21 13:04:58

Apparently it's good for the compost heap if aimed correctly.

Although I have never known anyone who's tried it.

GoldenAge Fri 13-Aug-21 13:01:17

I wonder if anyone has this problem with their granddaughters? No, of course not. It's pure indulgence of little boys to allow them to pull out their penises wherever they want - think I'm being a bit strait-laced or overly feminist? Not at all, just making that blindingly obvious point that little boys should be taught very early on that their penises don't rule the world.

Morag65 Fri 13-Aug-21 12:45:46

I love star charts. Always worked with mine. Maybe show him a YouTube video of soft play, and tell him if he fills the chart with gold stickers using the loo, then he can go to soft play…

Alternative let him wet himself and leave him in the wet pant for a few mins, will soon realise the loo is better. Bit cruel mind you

Shortlegs Fri 13-Aug-21 12:32:37

Is there any evidence of Labrador in the family!?

Goldencity Fri 13-Aug-21 12:32:27

I second the stick on urinals- my youngest grandson wasn’t keen on the idea of toilet training- but aiming at something certainly helped!

olliebeak Fri 13-Aug-21 12:27:57

My youngest grandson had two 'urinals' that attached to the wall. ONE in the bathroom and ONE in the Laundry Room (they had a huge flight of stairs that he couldn't negotiate easily when 'desperate'.

This is them - www.amazon.co.uk/Trainning-Trainer-Bathroom-Children-Whirling/dp/B01ANK3U9Y/ref=asc_df_B01ANK3U9Y/?hvlocphy=9046542&linkCode=df0&hvptwo&psc=1&hvnetw=g&hvadid=309882955166&hvpone&hvlocint&hvpos&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl&hvqmt&tag=gransnetforum-21&hvtargid=pla-549220833560&hvrand=6252716558878432450

Zoejory Fri 13-Aug-21 12:26:57

GagaJo

Zoejory

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

Or 73 ?. Naming no names.

Thing is, it isn't acceptable around other people. So, no, in my garden I don't care about a wee in the grass/up the plants really. BUT it isn't acceptable in public.

We all know it's a stage they go through but by 3 (the OP's grandson & my GS's age) they are old enough to know better.

I know what you mean, GagaJo I've just remembered. My father was a terror for it. I went round once and there he was, watering the hydrangeas. At 86.

I pointed out that he had the choice of 3 loos but he thought I was being ridiculous .

Good for the plants he yelled

FarNorth Fri 13-Aug-21 12:21:11

It's so frustrating and is holding him back from us taking him places like soft play, farm park, etc.

Arrange to go to one of these places, have a talk with him, telling him what will be expected and then keep a very close eye on him when there, so that he can be hurried into a toilet if necessary.

It is the adults' responsibility to check that a toilet is nearby and to make sure that the child has opportunities to use it.
Do not leave the whole thing to the child to think about and decide.

hilz Fri 13-Aug-21 12:18:54

No No No. We don't wee in a garden and absolutly never poo in the garden. A toilet is no distance away when you are home.
Why is it that boys are allowed to do this far more than girls.?
Yes sometimes there may be an outside emergency away from home but reinforce the fact that its an emergency. Just imagine as a nation if we all peed or pooped where ever we wanted. Oh my!!

Mollygo Fri 13-Aug-21 12:16:31

Alegrias1

There's a thread going on where people are questioning why I don't think children should automatically get invited to weddings. I think I'm vindicated. wink

????

Teddy123 Fri 13-Aug-21 12:08:44

Does he go to nursery, does he see mummy/daddy peeing in the loo, does his daddy ever pee in the garden, etc etc. Have you chatted to daughter about it.
I like the ping pong ball idea!
I hope you can help them resolve this issue. We all want our offspring to be 'individuals' but have to have a few rules. I had loo seat with an inner smaller hole for my GC and a little step to rest their feet on when doing a poo. Makes it easier!
Good Luck

CrazyGrandma2 Fri 13-Aug-21 12:06:58

Put a ping pong ball in the potty/loo and get him to aim at it. Also might improve his aim for later in life wink

4allweknow Fri 13-Aug-21 12:01:18

Bluebellwould I have twin sons. When trying to teach them to use the toilet DH did take them to show them how to. Unfortunately midstream sons decided that this waterfall was for playing with and put their hands up to the "waterfall". You can imagine the commotion!

GagaJo Fri 13-Aug-21 12:00:46

Zoejory

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

Or 73 ?. Naming no names.

Thing is, it isn't acceptable around other people. So, no, in my garden I don't care about a wee in the grass/up the plants really. BUT it isn't acceptable in public.

We all know it's a stage they go through but by 3 (the OP's grandson & my GS's age) they are old enough to know better.

lizzypopbottle Fri 13-Aug-21 11:53:42

I've just read the OP again and it says he holds his 'number two' for his own garden implying that he also does that in the garden! Do the parents then collect the faeces and take them indoors to flush them away? Seriously weird! Caught short and peeing in the garden isn't so bad if he's already playing outside but going outside specifically for that is a different matter.

Urine is sterile and not/shouldn't be disgusting. It contains urea, which eventually breaks down to ammonia, hence the characteristic smell and skin irritation caused by being in nappies. Faeces, on the other hand, are a health hazard. Both belong down the toilet.

Zoejory Fri 13-Aug-21 11:52:28

Whitewavemark2

He won’t be doing it when he is 20?. Relax it is just a phase.

Sad fact is he might be!

Couple of pints of beer and anywhere's a great spot to urinate.

Actually they don't even need to be drunk!

Aepgirl Fri 13-Aug-21 11:49:36

I’ve heard that the ping-pong ball works well.

NemosMum Fri 13-Aug-21 11:47:52

Toilets can be frightening for little ones - the fear of falling in and being flushed away etc! Get a suitable toilet seat and step to increase confidence. DON'T make a fuss! If you do, you will be storing up trouble for the future. Some children become toilet refusers as a means of maintaining control. This has to be handled kindly and consistently. Worth reading Chris Green in the latest edition of Toddler Taming.

Marjgran Fri 13-Aug-21 11:36:36

Goodness! It is a phase - something has convinced him this is best. Ignore and reward all indoors peeing - an immediate small gift or a star! Just as his baby friends won’t get married in -nappies, he won’t be peeing outdoors as a grown up.