Bedtime bad behaviour

Diner at 4pm bed at 5pm are they for real, and they go off for 2 days at a time!

Sorry please forgive me but it sounds like they can't wait to get rid of them

No wonder they mess about at bedtime for their parents if they are getting sent to bed at 5pm! it is far too early

Please forgive me if you feel that I should keep my opinion to myself

I’ve just had my two grandsons 3 and 7 staying for 5 nights little one went to bed at 6.45 if he had a busy day when I tried sitting with him for a bit after his story he said don’t worry nanny mum doesn’t sit with me she says goodnight and shuts the door ?

Whenever I have two of my grandchildren for regular sleepovers (usually on a Saturday night), I set the rules. They're 7 and 3.5 years old.

If they go to bed later than usual - it's not a problem. If I let them watch movies the next morning with me - it's not a problem. If I don't get them dressed til mid-morning and they stay in their pjs and play - it's not a problem.

They're loved, they're safe, they're happy spending 24 hours with me ? whilst their mum and dad have a well deserved date night.

The same goes when I look after them two/three days/week whilst my daughter and her husband work. I've done this for the last 6 years.

My daughter and son-in-law entrust me to care for my grandchildren as my own. It's a huge honour.

My grandchildren are never badly behaved. They're fun, crazy at times, creative, don't always want to go straight down to sleep, they want to chatter, demand attention ? and love me to bits. It's a wonderful relationship.

The same also applies to two of my other grandchildren. I pick them up and take them on holiday with me - also ages 7 and 3.5 years. During that time I'm in loco parentis.

Luckily my children and I are all on the same page when it comes to parenting.

That's so early! It must be extra difficult on summer nights, too. Poor children - their evening meal at tea time, as they get home from school, and if they fall asleep at six for nine hours they would be awake at 3 a.m, fully refreshed. They are almost like night workers. Why are their parents doing this? Do the children have no social life in the afternoon like going to the park or library after school?

tickingbird

Dinner at 4pm then in bed at 5pm? Ridiculously early I’m afraid. No wonder they’re running about playing. Even 6pm is too early. What time do they usually get up when they’re at home? It’s quite obvious they aren’t tired.

I’m not sure bedtime is 5.I gather the whole procedure takes two hours so I guess bedtime is nearer 7?

Start later, get it done quicker! And I’m sorry to say this, but stop being ruled by the children !

I agree with many others that is a, ridiculously early bedtime. Their obviously not tired at that time. I don't understand this modern phenomenon of the parents needing"down time' from their kiddies. Sorry but when my grandchildren used to stay over it was Granny's house, Granny's rules. You must be exhausted after that evening routine.

One of the best things I've done as a grandparent was to pay for a sleep consultant when my son and his wife were having trouble getting their children to bed. It took a little while after I introduced the idea for them to take me up on it, but the children were happily going to bed within a few days of the consultation. If that's something your family can afford, you might make the suggestion just by asking them if they'd ever heard of such a thing! Many people haven't, and others think they are just for babies.

The bed time is far too early. I feel quite sorry for them, especially in Summer. My sister’s children had very early bed times so that she and her husband could have quality time together- ( 3 children in 6 years)- and all three were badly behaved at bedtime and beyond. They looked forward to staying with my parents who allowed a more reasonable bedtime with no squabbles .

Too early. You could try story tapes/CDs whatever is used now. These were great for lulling my children off to sleep. They still had a story read to them too.

One thing I have learnt about small children over the years is that they don't go to sleep just because you want them to.

Bedtime at 5pm ? that’s still afternoon not evening, dinner at 4pm ? that’s not long after lunch time ! What planet are you all on ? I’m not surprised the children are so wide awake and running around , its not normal to want to go to sleep for the night at 5pm . My 2 year old GC would just about be having her dinner then not getting ready for bed .

My granddaughters routine starts with tea then quiet play and/or time on her tablet then a bath about 7.30pm then a story in the Lounge followed by a story in bed about 8.30pm (No playing after bath time) We sometimes have the odd "Nanna I need.......". When I leave her I can hear her singing or telling herself stories but she is usually asleep within half an hour

I agree, far too early at that age. Let them stay up later and see how it goes. If it works out better for you and the later to sleep works then you could probably say to the parents that it wasn’t working and just while they are with you, then its bed time a bit later and they settle quicker They may well then try it themselves and also have an easier bed time routine

Goos suggestions from Cherrytree

Dinner at 4pm then in bed at 5pm? Ridiculously early I’m afraid. No wonder they’re running about playing. Even 6pm is too early. What time do they usually get up when they’re at home? It’s quite obvious they aren’t tired.

Your house, your rules. This is far too early for dinner and bed! Stretch out dinner time followed by a bit of playing out, or tv, then it’s Bath, stories, bed.
I have no understanding of dinner at 4pm.
I would stretch out dinner as late as possible. ?‍♀️?

What time in the morning are they getting up?

All the time the children are laughing in your face, the lack of discipline is being reinforced and they have each other to provide a wall of resistance. Change it by dealing with one child at a time.

I think that trying to get children this age to sleep in the late afternoon is unworkable. Maybe you could adjust this to bath/showers at 7/7.30 pm then perhaps a suitable film instead of a story and they will go to bed tired. If they play up then so long as they are not doing anything to hurt themselves or each other let them run off this final bout of steam. Close the door, make a cup of tea/pour a wine and ignore them. This is attention seeking that works with their parents. It is just a bit like training a puppy.

As others as said far too early, tire them out with walk or play. Have meal around 5pm to 5.30 afterwards get pyjamas on (bath optional) settle calmly in a darkened room to watch CBeebies until it goes off around 7pm. Banana (helps sleep) small cup of milk, teeth cleaned/toilet then in bed with a quiet/calm story.

Sorry, I missed that you said the parents have problems with this too. I wonder why they send them to bed so early then spend so long trying to get them to sleep?

GrandmaKT

That would be water off a duck's back SueDonim, they just wouldn't believe it!

They would if you stuck to your word.

Put your clock forward 2 hours, feed them at 6 and bath at seven, bed by 7.30.

Dinner at 4 pm?? Bed at 5? Wow that's early. Is there a reason for this? Are mum and dad able to get them settled so early? Wondering what time they get up.

No wonder they don't want to sleep. 5pm is still afternoon, not even evening. Sorry you have to follow an unrealistic bedtime routine.

My grandson who is very lively during the day starts his bedtime routine, bath book etc at 7 pm. He is 4.1/2. Why do your GC go to bed so early! Its no wonder they play up. I would just put tem to bed much later if you are looking after them.