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Elizabeth27 Fri 29-Oct-21 16:38:37

I am sorry to hear of your diagnosis but in my opinion it does not give you the right to put so much pressure on your daughter. You are asking her to choose between her husband and you, not a good idea.

If you do not want treatment that is very much your call but making somebody else the reason is totally unfair on them.

Your son in laws relationship with his mother is their business, do not get involved.

I hope you find some peace of mind and urge you to talk to somebody outside the family about your treatment.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 16:38:30

I think you are being quite unreasonable to use your results as leverage to sway things to be how you want them, yes.
It's a shame that you aren't concentrating your thoughts towards more positive outcomes for yourself.

Namsnanny Fri 29-Oct-21 16:28:45

It occurs to me that blind loyalty is no more than adherence to propaganda.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 29-Oct-21 16:19:32

I’m so sorry about your diagnosis lollipoplove. It must be shattering and we don’t have to have gone through chemo to know it’s tough.

I think you’re feeling particularly vulnerable, your daughter must be shocked, and now guilt-ridden which I’m sure you didn’t intend. She sounds like piggy in the middle with a husband who managed to fall out not only with you but also with his own mother. Put aside the fact that he’s ‘forgiven’ her but not you. Was there actually anything to forgive in either case? We all have arguments, we’re human, but it sounds as if he then sulks for years. I feel sorry for your daughter being married to him and perhaps you do too? She’s in an invidious position.

You don’t say if your daughter and grandchildren are your only family, but in any case think of your daughter and grandchildren. They need you. Please have the chemo so you can be there for them. They would be devastated if you didn’t. And I would be very surprised if your son in law didn’t come round out of sympathy.

Very best wishes for a good outcome.?

VioletSky Fri 29-Oct-21 16:16:18

I'm so sorry you have received such an awful diagnosis. Please find and join a support group for it so that you have access to support for all the feelings this has brought up for you.

What did you and your son in law fight about? Is it something you have addressed with him since? Are there problems he has pointed out that you need to listen to?

What did your son in laws mum do when they fell out to make things right again when he felt left out?

Please do not sacrifice yourself to make a point to your daughter. Don't put her in the middle between you and her husband and then punish her for not siding with you by refusing your own treatment.

If you still have a good relationship with your daughter, invite her over, spend time with her... Figure out how to heal this rift with her. Don't use emotional blackmail to force your own way.

Please see a doctor to help you cope with this

Smileless2012 Fri 29-Oct-21 16:06:38

Your s.i.l. sounds extremely immature Lollipoplove, falling out with his own mother because he didn't agree with her visiting schedule.

I don't agree that your D owes her H her loyalty, we shouldn't condone unacceptable behaviour under any circumstances, but I appreciate that can be easier said than done if not doing so creates difficulties within one's own home.

You say you spend quality time with your GC, something that not all GP's get to do because of their AC's partner, in fact some of us don't get to see our GC or AC at all.

TBH as long as could see my D and the children I wouldn't give two hoots about seeing this man, let alone spending any length of time with him.

I'm very sorry about your bad news regarding your mammogram and think that before you make any decisions you should discuss the treatment and long term prognosis if you refuse chemotherapy.

When our youngest son estranged us almost 9 years ago and as a result stopped us from seeing our only GC, I thought my life was over, but I was wrong.

Whatever you decide, make sure it's what you want based on how things are, not on how you wish they could beflowers.

Oopsadaisy1 Fri 29-Oct-21 16:05:28

I’m sorry but you are in the wrong to use emotional blackmail.
See your GP for your depression, get well and then sort the situation out with your SIL, don’t make your daughter choose between you and her husband.
What he does with his Mother is really of no concern of yours, she is his Mother and you aren’t.
I’m sorry that you have had a bad diagnosis but please don't put this onto your daughter.

Baggs Fri 29-Oct-21 15:51:31

A good motto I found recently: Don't force anyone else; force yourself.

Your DD cannot force her husband to change his attitude to you so it's unfair (as she says) to try and pressurise her into trying. She owes him her loyalty.

If you are really depressed, please see your GP.

DiscoDancer1975 Fri 29-Oct-21 15:50:12

Firstly...I am so sorry to hear of your diagnosis and would hope you would reconsider the treatment on offer.

I don’t see it as emotionally blackmailing, because your daughter can see there’s a problem, because she doesn’t want to fight with her husband about it. It’s not as though she won’t acknowledge it, or thinks you’re being paranoid.

I wouldn’t want you to miss out though, with possibly a few more years of being able to see your grandchildren.

My daughter has a horrid MIL, with loads of issues from the past, but sometimes I think, because she ( my daughter ), is a people pleaser, she tries to keep me and this woman on a level playing field. Everyone has to be fairly balanced. So....if they don’t see her, they don’t see us. That type of thing.

I’m wondering if your SIL is like this. His own mother is awful, but to appease his guilt? ...he...and then your daughter, treat you badly too. It is just a thought.

Please get the chemo. There may be other wonderful things round the corner.

Namsnanny Fri 29-Oct-21 15:44:28

Being outside of your situation I can easily see both what your daughter means, and also sympathize with your point of view.

When is telling it like it is, emotional blackmail?
I dont know where to draw the line.

But.... if I were in your shoes telling my daughter what you have said, I would think of it in terms of, she cant make an informed decision about the situation between all three of us, unless she is told the truth.

So my pov would be you are giving the family the opportunity to re assess how things are now and a chance to discuss if or how to change them.

I hope things improve for you. Please vent or talk on here. No matter what the results are.
I think discussing this from all angles might help you form a slightly different perspective.
Best of luck.

Juliet27 Fri 29-Oct-21 15:38:36

Yes, that was my thought too Lucca

Riverwalk Fri 29-Oct-21 15:36:07

I'm sorry about the results of your mammogram but you are being very silly to deny yourself life-saving chemo because of the behaviour of your SIL.

And you are being very cruel to your daughter.

Lucca Fri 29-Oct-21 15:33:44

I’m really sorry you have had bad news about your health, but I have to say what you are saying to your daughter sounds rather like emotional blackmail?

Lollipoplove Fri 29-Oct-21 15:30:34

Iv had some bad news from my Mammogram.
I said to my Daughter I don’t want to go through chemo if I’m continually left out of family gatherings ( her husband doesn’t like me from an argument 6 yrs ago) he just picks on me but calls it banter.
I said I’d rather not go on if the only family I have left don’t want to invite me to Birthdays Christmas family meals out etc
My Daughter said she can’t make her husband change towards me , she doesn’t want the rows with him. She said I’m putting her under too much pressure by saying I would rather not be he than be depressed all the time due to being left out.
Ironically he has decided to take his mum out for her 80th Birthday he cell out with her approximately 10yrs ago due to his mum visiting his sister on at least a few occasions for a couple of weeks but didn’t bother to see him his wife ( my Daughter) & their children. His mum also openly blames my zDaughter for making her son move 180 miles away, although she does have other children & grandchildren who live near her. Also it’s very ad hoc if his children ( my grandchildren) receive a birthday card. I’m the only Grandparent who spends quality time & spoil them abit to much.
It seems so unfair he’s forgiving his own mother but won’t forgive me & won’t let my zDaughter.
Am I right to feel so hurt that my Daughter says it’s to much pressure to put on her about allowing me back into the family gatherings or I see no point in prolonging my life with chemo.
Advice appreciated x