Gransnet forums

Ask a gran

MIL asking for alone time

(170 Posts)
Walktothepark20 Sat 30-Oct-21 02:27:02

Hi grans, I’d love to hear from you so I can try to understand.

We are having a lot of conflict with my in-laws because they seem to hold expectations of what being a grandparent would involve. They view it as a caretaking role, but I’m a stay at home mum and I chose to have children because I really wanted to be a mother and take on the caretaking role.

My mother in law is complaining that she hasn’t been alone enough with our children, aged 1 and 3. She is especially focused on my 3 year old.

We live 5 mins away and see them every single week for a family dinner, or if we don’t do dinner we do an outing together like the park, picnic or beach.

During these visits, my mother in law often wanders to another room or runs away in the park with my toddler. I have asked her why alone time is important, she says the dynamic is different when the child knows the parent isn’t there.

I know that she disagrees with my parenting approach and thinks I am too protective and doesn’t like some of my rules. She also takes over and tends to play a maternal role to my children and seems to dislike when I take my son to the potty or do nappies because she wants/expects to do that during catch ups.

I think my in-laws are just excited and have a vision for what it would be like; but it all leaves me feeling like a gatekeeper who they wish to push aside so that they can do things how they would like/imagined.

I feel smothered by their persistence - we’ve had issues in the past with drop ins or my MIL calling herself mummy by accident several times.

I’m not sure how to carve out a positive relationship here, I’d love to hear from some other grandmas - what do you think I should do? How do I approach this alone time pressure? How do I handle my Mil wanting to do all the caretaking tasks when we see her?

We’re planning to all meet and talk openly to resolve the conflicts, so love any tips

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 20:09:57

I've seen children who have never been trusted out of their mother's care. Who have never been to the toilet except with their mum and always had mum on hand. It really isn't good for a child. School or nursery is traumatic for them. At some point you have to start to trust and by 3 your child should know there are others who he can trust and interact with. A grandparent is a great place to start.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 20:09:25

By calling themselves the wrong name?

Well possibly but then again, she seems to want the "mummy" role as described by the OP

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 20:05:00

As far as the calling "mummy" goes. I have been known to call GCs by DSs names and sometimes run through a list before I get the right one. My mum sometimes called her GGC her GCs. and did the same name mixing up. People sometimes slip up.

welbeck Sat 06-Nov-21 20:03:41

exactly.
people are comparing apples and motorbikes.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 19:58:27

trisher to me you aren't describing the same thing OP is...

Thank you for your answer though

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 19:56:48

Well all of my DSs were capable of disappearing in a park by the age of 3, ad had to be chased at 2. I suppose it does depend on the sort of child you have. A friend had a lovely quiet first child and an extremely active and physical second one. I remember her saying "I always wondered why you couldn't sit down in the park, and now I know."
Perhaps I just appreciated having another person to run after them.
I did change my DGC's nappies particularly when their mum was busy. Sometimes I did it without asking. Picked up child smelt and dealt with it. Sometimes I let my son do it.
My mum lived in sheltered housing and when her GGC visited she would take him on a tour of the building. They went by themselves and no one imagined she was challenging anyone's role or rules. They were just having fun.
It isn't challenging or being domineering. It's just playing.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 19:44:07

Anyway, I've said what I think and OPs needs comes first.

Some new mums are anxious but we don't "cure" that by running away with children, we earn their trust and make them feel safe.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 19:38:33

No you are right she didn't, she said "runs away" with her grandchild.

I just find that odd because I wouldn't do that. I'd just ask to do that so mum knew where we were going. I'm pretty immovable if a toddler tries to drag me anywhere really and I'd call out if the toddler were just running off and I was running after and we'd all be chasing down those little legs I expect.

welbeck Sat 06-Nov-21 19:36:20

i agree with VioletSky.

MamaCaz Sat 06-Nov-21 19:32:34

VioletSky

trisher I'm just trusting the OP here because there are some red flags to me.

Would you really just run off out of sight with your 3 year old grandchild in the park when no one was looking?

Did you call yourself "mummy" a few times despite the excitement of being a grandma?

Did you really visit your children and grandchildren and expect or want to be the one to change nappies or take them to the potty?“

MIL needs to stop trying to parent these children and grandparent them... Then I am sure Walktothe Park will relax

Could I just point out that the OP does not actually say that the mil ran off out of sight in the park when no one was looking.

At least, having gone back through the thread, I haven't found those claims.

Unless I have missed them, I think it more likely that the grandmother has just spontaneously either led or followed the dgc away from the family group, but not necessarily far or out of sight. In a normal grandchild/parent/grandparent group, that sort of thing sounds nothing out of the ordinary.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 19:10:30

trisher I'm just trusting the OP here because there are some red flags to me.

Would you really just run off out of sight with your 3 year old grandchild in the park when no one was looking?

Did you call yourself "mummy" a few times despite the excitement of being a grandma?

Did you really visit your children and grandchildren and expect or want to be the one to change nappies or take them to the potty?“

MIL needs to stop trying to parent these children and grandparent them... Then I am sure Walktothe Park will relax

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 19:02:10

VioletSky

trisher of course but OP isn't saying "I don't want my child going anywhere with anyone ever" she is saying MIL is making her uncomfortable. That's only 1 person and she has given us reasons

The OP is calling things like nappy changing a "maternal role". Most mums will let others change their children's nappies, she thinks her MIL wants to push her aside, because she goes off with her GC. Has she never thought that it might be the three year old taking grandma away? My GCs and DGCs were all capable of doing this at three. Now my DGCs are older they just boss me about when we are playing.

Chewbacca Sat 06-Nov-21 18:55:16

Good post @ 17.46 trisher, very well said.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 18:39:51

trisher of course but OP isn't saying "I don't want my child going anywhere with anyone ever" she is saying MIL is making her uncomfortable. That's only 1 person and she has given us reasons

MamaCaz Sat 06-Nov-21 18:37:13

trisher

I wonder have people never heard of over-protective mothers? Where the child has been so protected and restricted they find new things traumatic and worrying and it takes them a lifetime to get over it.

Good point, Trisher.

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 17:46:25

I wonder have people never heard of over-protective mothers? Where the child has been so protected and restricted they find new things traumatic and worrying and it takes them a lifetime to get over it.

Bridgeit Sat 06-Nov-21 17:41:01

Smilesss, Because the M-in-Law , is overstepping her involvement & pressing ahead with her own agenda.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 17:26:33

Because needs come before wants... Simply.

When parents are ready for alone time they give it and yes it can be beneficial to all parties..

Problem is MIL is putting her wants first and ignoring her DILs needs.

This has caused issues or this post wouldn't be here.

MIL needs to let her DIL move at her own pace

Smileless2012 Sat 06-Nov-21 17:22:14

But you posted "I don't think grandparents 'have a right to have alone time, how very strange to request this" Bridgeit.

I agree they don't have a right but can't understand why the mother of a 3 year old and a baby would resent her m.i.l. helping with potty training and nappy changing.

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 17:11:59

Of course GP's don't have a "right " to alone time, but why would you say "No" to something which would benefit your child and you?
I don't understand about the "maternal" nappy changing and potty use either. What about dads? And if GPs will do it wouldn't it be helpful?

Bridgeit Sat 06-Nov-21 16:56:33

Smileless, I have said ( as in my opinion) that I don’t think Grandparents have ‘a right to alone time’ .

Smileless2012 Sat 06-Nov-21 16:52:11

Yes, but no where has the OP said her m.i.l. has said it's her right to have alone time. Asking for something and claiming you have a right are not the same thing are they.

VioletSky Sat 06-Nov-21 16:45:30

The title says "asking for alone time"

Smileless2012 Sat 06-Nov-21 16:37:19

Exactly trisher no mention of it being a "right". Much better to try and see the funny side rather than take everything as a being negatively judgemental.

trisher Sat 06-Nov-21 16:34:41

The OP actually says I have asked her why alone time is important, she says the dynamic is different when the child knows the parent isn’t there
Which made me remember when my eldest stayed with his GP for a few days about 7 or 8. When I went to pick him up he behaved badly and my mum commented "He was so much better behaved when you weren't here!" I suppose I could have taken offence, but I thought it was funny-and she was right!