Calmlocket
Well it just goes to show how easy it is to upset people when posting, Im just relieved I realised what I typed and apologised.?
I had the bazookas out, but I've put them away 

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Gransnet seems to be a very judgmental place today - from dissing people's choice of daily paper to 'guessing' why someone disliked a couple on Strictly.
I imagine that most people on here would see themselves as being very tolerant but does that tolerance only stretch to people who think in a similar way?
Calmlocket
Well it just goes to show how easy it is to upset people when posting, Im just relieved I realised what I typed and apologised.?
I had the bazookas out, but I've put them away 

25Avalon
The point I was making Alegrias was that people do believe things without checking for themselves.
Yes, I agree 25Avalon.
But you did say that they might have done a lot of research before believing night is day. Which only goes to show that what a lot people call "research" is just looking things up on the internet without understanding the context, or the bias of the authors.
FannyCornforth
I was joking Calmlocket, I hope that I didn’t offend you
It’s a nightmare innit?
Cant stop laughing.????
The point I was making Alegrias was that people do believe things without checking for themselves.
I was joking Calmlocket, I hope that I didn’t offend you
It’s a nightmare innit? 
25Avalon
Alegrias they may have done lots of research before stating that day is night, that climate change is not caused by human activity. The general consensus of climate scientists is that it is but that does not make it an absolute fact in the philosophical sense of the word. Lots of people say humans have caused global warming without having a clue as to the science. What I’m getting at is that we all believe things without necessarily checking it out for ourselves.
The one thing I hate is the rudeness and insulting derogatory comments that some post on here, just because someone expresses a different opinion or viewpoint. Politeness even when polemically opposed should be upheld. You might think someone is an idiot but why say it? It just puts the other person on the defensive and entrenches them in their viewpoints, so we have post after post on the same subject time and time again that gets nowhere except eventual deletion.
But some things are fact. 25Avalon. Your example of climate change. No matter how much people would like to think its all natural and there's nothing they can do about it, they are wrong. There's no arguments any more (There haven't been for a good 20 years, but that's another thread...)
At some point discussing "absolute philosophical fact" becomes a luxury. We can have a "philosophical " discussion about gravity, but its still holding you on the planet.
To be honest. I have no interest in converting people who have opinions that fly in the face of science or fact. There are some things that, if you believe them, then sorry, you are an idiot (not "you" specifically, you as in "one"). People have lots of ideas that I disagree with on here, but they are strongly held beliefs that I am not going to get involved with. But if you have an opinions on reality that can't stand up to a bit of scrutiny, I can't help that.
Well it just goes to show how easy it is to upset people when posting, Im just relieved I realised what I typed and apologised.?
Alegrias1
OK, Calmlocket, I had a post written but I won't post it
Blimey! Thank goodness for that!
I thought that all hell was about to break loose! 

OK, Calmlocket, I had a post written but I won't post it 
Alegrias they may have done lots of research before stating that day is night, that climate change is not caused by human activity. The general consensus of climate scientists is that it is but that does not make it an absolute fact in the philosophical sense of the word. Lots of people say humans have caused global warming without having a clue as to the science. What I’m getting at is that we all believe things without necessarily checking it out for ourselves.
The one thing I hate is the rudeness and insulting derogatory comments that some post on here, just because someone expresses a different opinion or viewpoint. Politeness even when polemically opposed should be upheld. You might think someone is an idiot but why say it? It just puts the other person on the defensive and entrenches them in their viewpoints, so we have post after post on the same subject time and time again that gets nowhere except eventual deletion.
Oh heck, not you Alegrias1 I mean people in general. ?
Alegrias1
At the risk of bringing the ceiling down on my head...
What really annoys me on GN is comments that confidently state that day is night, then the posters get huffy if they're told they're wrong.
What doesn't annoy me is posters who say ^someone told me day is night, is that right? Can anybody explain?^
I think the older you get the more opinionated you get and you become a know it all ?
Maizie but I’m not just talking about ‘opinions’, I’m thinking of people’s actual character and values.
We shouldn’t just dismiss folk, as if all the goodies read The Guardian and the scum lap up the DM.
I’m sorry if I’m simplistic
Josianne
Oh yes and all the matey business is tiresome too.
Signed
Bessie no mates. xxx
Don’t be daft ! In the nicest possible way…..
Kandinsky
Yes sorry about that Lucca. I shouldn’t have said that to you yesterday, it was unnecessary and I apologise.
I’ve never said that before so don’t know why I said it.
Hope we can move on
Just saw this . Thank you for your apology. Totally accepted,
Thank you Alegrias- perfectly said.
Being judgemental is in our DNA. It goes back to early man: survival. Ie. Is he part of our tribe, no, then he must be another therefore our enemy.
Not much we can do about it really ?
FannyCornforth
I haven’t read the full thread, but I will say that the only people that I tend to be judgemental of, are those types who are lazy and small minded enough to believe that they can judge others upon something so trivial and fleeting as their choice of flipping newspaper.
(Apologies for the stupidly long sentence)
Where do you think people get their 'opinions' from, then FannyC?
The one thing you can be sure of is that opinions don't just materialise out of thin air.
At the risk of bringing the ceiling down on my head...
What really annoys me on GN is comments that confidently state that day is night, then the posters get huffy if they're told they're wrong.
What doesn't annoy me is posters who say someone told me day is night, is that right? Can anybody explain?
pantglas2 yes it is and the Weekend Magazine for the TV is definitely the best one!
If this thread gets put in the Daily Newsletter, (which I think that it might) things will get even more repetitive! 
As someone said upthread ( is there such a word) , we are all judgemental to some degree. What really annoys me on GN is comments that are patronising.
Kim most threads become circuitous, especially if folk such as me don’t read the whole thread.
Gosh I think this is one of the more circuitous threads I've ever encountered on here. For me, with absolutely no recognisable conclusion at all. However I found a huge degree of redemption when I made it to Calmlocket's contribution. Terrific for me. Would that we all had even the smallest part of our minds open.
I haven’t read the full thread, but I will say that the only people that I tend to be judgemental of, are those types who are lazy and small minded enough to believe that they can judge others upon something so trivial and fleeting as their choice of flipping newspaper.
(Apologies for the stupidly long sentence
)
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