Piggy in the middle[again]

Because they are having the op for childcare, and presumably she comes into contact with others, who may not be jabbed at all.
Because they send the child to nursery, amongst all those other people.
Their boundaries don't seem to make sense.
But as you say, his choice.

This may be of interest. After two jabs a very close family member had a blood test which showed no covid antibodies. We remain cautious.

MissAdventure

Summerlove people are trying, generally, to still see their families, within the acceptable things that they need to set boundaries against.

I think most people now are aware that we can't hold back the tide indefinitely.

I don't think it's a young vs old issue.

Exactly. The sone has set boundaries on how he can see his family. No one is being cut out.

So why are people so against the boundaries that he finds acceptable? To the point of mocking his family?

By the sounds of it, your DS must surely be isolating the children from everything and everyone otherwise how can they possibly protect them from the virus. You are allowed to childmind which makes DSs view of your parents ridiculous unless of course you have no contact with anyone whatsoever. Even though fully vaccinated with booster you can still get Covid. And don't we all know children are great transmitters of the virus yet show no symptoms. Think I'd be having Christmas with DPs and leave DS to have his Christmas in his isolation. I'd also be questioning why you are allowed to childmind if you have contact with any other person out there.

Summerlove people are trying, generally, to still see their families, within the acceptable things that they need to set boundaries against.

I think most people now are aware that we can't hold back the tide indefinitely.

I don't think it's a young vs old issue.

I suspect Joanna has probably spoken to her parents. She knows her family dynamics and we don’t, and though most feel her son should have told his grandparents himself, I hope if she did it wasn’t as bad as she feared.

MissAdventure

There is more to health than physically locking yourself away from every risk in life.
That seems an unhealthy model for the children.

Perhaps, however we can’t expect everyone to conform to our expectations on what they should do.
Just as those who go galavanting about want respect, those who are cautious deserve it.

No one is saying the grandparents shouldn’t do what they want, so why are the sons decisions less important? Because he’s younger?

No matter the age, unvaccinated people are more at risk of catching covid. Why do people seem to think children are immune? It’s children who are the highest case numbers where I am.

I don’t see how giving them extra exposures is safe or loving.

If it were the grandparents who were vulnerable everybody would be saying to stay away and keep them safe. Why is it not the same for children?

They are all triple jabbed, joanna said.

Sorry...are you all vaccinated? I don’t read other replies until after I’ve given mine, so as not to be influenced. My apologies if I jumped the ‘ vaccination’ gun.

Just read your parents aren’t vaccinated. They clearly have no regard for others, no matter how lovely your childhood was.

It’s a no brainier for me. I wouldn’t see them at all....not just Christmas.

It shouldn’t be your concern. Your son should deal with them himself. He has every right though, to restrict as he sees fit, and everyone should respect this.

There is more to health than physically locking yourself away from every risk in life.
That seems an unhealthy model for the children.

Mummer

I despair of kids nowadays! Overgrown tantrum chucking eejits! I'd have a very firm reply "tell them yourself!!" Cheek. They certainly know how to press our buttons! Knowing that we want to keep the peace we allow them to behave in the most appalling manner, anyone else would get the bums rush! I truly hope you resolve this to yours and the dear Olds benefits. Happy Christmas darling!

I agree that he should tell them himself, however he seems to imply that he won’t soften the blow the way his mother would, then she’d get the anger from her parents that way.

The only people chucking tantrums here seem to be OPs parents who won’t take well to being told “no”.

For a group who gets so up in arms when a grandparent can’t see a grand child, I’m shocked by the lack of care about these childrens health,

I bet they will expect to be left some goodies in everyone's wills ? I'd disappoint them I'm afraid they're just twerps it's not the protection of the kids that's daft , it's the lack of maturity in dealing with this

I despair of kids nowadays! Overgrown tantrum chucking eejits! I'd have a very firm reply "tell them yourself!!" Cheek. They certainly know how to press our buttons! Knowing that we want to keep the peace we allow them to behave in the most appalling manner, anyone else would get the bums rush! I truly hope you resolve this to yours and the dear Olds benefits. Happy Christmas darling!

Dont do the dirty work its your Sons responsibility to tell your parents, you could point out who knows if it might be the last Christmas you have together.I have had a little problem with some of my family where to be and who to visit on Christmas Day,I said I am getting on and who knows if I will still be here next Christmas, that kept them quiet.

Just Don't. Tell him it is for him to let them know - have they actually been invited or is there some assuming going on? It really, really IS NOT YOUR PLACE OR JOB. He is grown up with his own family - why can't he just explain it to them.

I dont6think that is necessarily true.
My mum had me run ragged at times, during the last few years of her life.

She never had before, it wasn't in her nature, nor mine to "do as I'm told".

It's just how things end up, sometimes, and I tried not to begrudge it, even it I didn't always manage that.

I would j
Have a lovely Christmas Day with parents. How hurtful.
Be strong, your parents won't be here forever

I hope your father is no longer driving.

There is another post about your mother being controlling and she doesnt want to change how xmas is celebrated

Who invited them to your son's home in xmas? Themselves, your son or you?

They honestly sound very unpleasant to deal with.

This goes beyond covid, I bet you have been appeasing them all their lives.

Possibly strange, considering I know 2 nursery staff, and neither are vaccinated.

Suzey

So you're allowed in because you baby sit how convenient ! what a selfish son you have

If my choices to protect my children were between my mother who is cautious and my grandparents who did whatever they wanted I would absolutely be choosing my mother over my grandparents. Especially with small children who cannot be vaccinated and are therefore more vulnerable to catching Covid than the grandparents who are triple jabbed.

Not at all selfish.

On re-reading your post I realised you babysit. So that’s obviously considered OK, risk wise. I think I’d be rethinking that one.

www.gransnet.com/forums/ask_a_gran/a1302263-advice-please

"my son and his wife are very strict with covid and have only just started back in office work and don't leave anyone in the house so my parents going in is a big thing for them,*my main problem is my parents they have not been careful from day one and blame everyone else but themselves for a the covid numbers* etc and i feel really stuck in the middle,i am proud of my son and his wife for all the actions they have taken but i know when i tell my mum later she will not be happy.I have had so many sleepless nights stressing about one and the other i really am in the middle."

Bolding is mine

OP

You are not piggy in the middle, you are firmly picking your parents' side, for a long time.

I would be careful this impacting your relationship with your son and your gc.