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User7777 Wed 05-Jan-22 14:49:29

Hi, anyone know how to start a petition for Englands over 60s prescription charges. Surely its discrimination to charge Englands over 6os and not Wakes, Scotland or Ireland.

grannycakes Fri 07-Jan-22 10:09:46

You can buy more that 16 paracetomol or ibuprofen but you have to get them from a pharmacist rather than a supermarket - a helpful Boots pharmacist pointed this out to me

Dickens Fri 07-Jan-22 09:03:44

Teacheranne

The reason paracetamol is given on prescription for certain conditions is the quantity that is needed on a daily basis. I take up to 8 paracetamol every day so if I was buying them over the counter, I would have to buy a packet several times a week. This is not really practical especially as the reason for taking so many is pain relief for arthritis which greatly restricts my mobility. I have a form of arthritis that cannot be blamed on my lifestyle or weight and replacement surgery is not necessarily the solution.

The reason paracetamol is given on prescription for certain conditions is the quantity that is needed on a daily basis.

... thank you for posting this. When people say that paracetamol can be bought cheaply from the supermarket - they seem not to understand that the quantity you require cannot legally be sold in one purchase. Thus, as you say, you would have to buy them several times per week - or visit several different shops / supermarkets to obtain the quantity you need in one go. And you would have to do this each week.

Which is why they are sometimes on prescription. I get a bit tired of having to explain to those who tell me how cheap these paracetamol are and that I should "buy my own". I would, actually, if retailers were allowed to sell them in the quantities I need on a daily basis! As a partially disabled person with sole responsibility for my disabled partner, I really don't have the time to make the rounds of shops and supermarkets each week to do this! Fortunately, the NHS recognises how impractical this is.

Alegrias1 Fri 07-Jan-22 08:28:40

Keep going folks. The more you complain about us and call us "provinces" the more likely it is that we'll grant your wish and bu**er off come the next opportunity to do it.

Provinces. What next.

Sharina Fri 07-Jan-22 08:24:29

I don’t mind paying it because I’m not retired and have an income. I’m outraged though that here in England we pay, while those in the other “provinces”, don’t! It should be the same.

Whiff Fri 07-Jan-22 07:18:24

I have been ill for 34 years with a neurological condition because my neurologist can't put a name to . I have no label. But it effects my limbs and gave me seizures until I had a new neurologist who prescribed a tablet and they have stopped. Last year diagnosed with PAF . So more tablets. Only had free prescription for 3 years when I became 60. Before paid for yearly one. Will have to do that again when they stop free prescriptions for over 60s as I could afford to pay per item. I have no name for my neurological condition so never been able to claim anything.

Have signed the petition but see only 12,000+ have signed it. It needs to be 100,000 if it stands a chance of being defeated.

H1954 Fri 07-Jan-22 06:42:52

Aren't those in receipt of benefits exempt anyway? If so then surely not everyone between 60 and 66 would have to start paying again.

Teacheranne Fri 07-Jan-22 05:02:17

The reason paracetamol is given on prescription for certain conditions is the quantity that is needed on a daily basis. I take up to 8 paracetamol every day so if I was buying them over the counter, I would have to buy a packet several times a week. This is not really practical especially as the reason for taking so many is pain relief for arthritis which greatly restricts my mobility. I have a form of arthritis that cannot be blamed on my lifestyle or weight and replacement surgery is not necessarily the solution.

ElaineRI55 Fri 07-Jan-22 04:32:47

The simplest and fairest approach is health care free at the point of need, including prescriptions. Education free and based on ability to learn not ability to pay. A properly calculated tax system means we all contribute in a fair way and people shouldn't fall through the cracks by earning pennies too much to qualify for free prescriptions. We've managed to budget for free prescriptions and free higher education in Scotland, as well as extending free travel to young people (and no - we're not subsidised by England). I hope the petition is successful. Price rises, especially fuel bills, are going to hit hard this year as it is, without those caught up in this having to start paying for prescriptions on top of everything else.

growstuff Thu 06-Jan-22 23:57:08

Georgesgran

When I see the amount of meds that are ‘ditched’ by some people after only a few doses - I wonder if everyone should pay a nominal amount per ‘script’.
Perhaps it would encourage people to ‘finish the course’ and perhaps give an appreciation of how much the actual meds cost?

How do you know how many people ditch their meds?

growstuff Thu 06-Jan-22 23:54:52

HannahLoisLuke I am currently prescribed Co-dydramol (which is Paracetamol with a boost from Dihydrocodeine) for neuropathy which is caused by diabetes. I'm also prescribed Aspirin because I've had a heart attack, for which diabetes is a risk factor. Two diabetic medications are prescribed in addition to a statin and blood pressure medication because underlying diabetes goes hand in hand with cardio-vascular problems. I have hardly been prescribed anything apart from repeat meds. On the other hand, I pay for my own lancets and test strips (about £20 a month) because they're no longer prescribed for most T2 diabetics. I also pay for podiatry, although my foot problems are caused by diabetes.

Gran16 Thu 06-Jan-22 23:36:58

I'm 57 and my retirement age is 67. I was diagnosed with an extremely rare, incurable and potentially life threatening autoimmune illness 6 years ago. If it weren't for the prepayment certificate I wouldn't be able to afford all the medication I need to take to keep me safe and reasonably healthy. I looked into exemption and I don't qualify, even wrote to MPs about it being considered to be added to the list for exemption, and was told it wasn't even up for putting forward for discussion! 3 in 100,000 people are diagnosed and prior to steroid discovery 95% of those diagnosed died within the 1st year with systemic infection, I'm a member of a UK support group and the members are in the 100's not 1000's. I don't know if I will be able to work to my retirement age but will have to keep going as long as I can. As I work full-time I can afford the prepayment certificate of £10.81/month over 10 months, but I certainly couldn't afford to pay the prescription charges for the 10-12 items I need per month. I do think we should pay if we can but people should not have to go without necessary medication due to lack of finances. I also think it's wrong that paracetamol is available on prescription for what it costs in the supermarket etc. I just hope I'm fit enough to enjoy retirement when I eventually get there.

Georgesgran Thu 06-Jan-22 20:51:57

When I see the amount of meds that are ‘ditched’ by some people after only a few doses - I wonder if everyone should pay a nominal amount per ‘script’.
Perhaps it would encourage people to ‘finish the course’ and perhaps give an appreciation of how much the actual meds cost?

Jaylou Thu 06-Jan-22 20:13:26

There have been over 6,000 signatures added in the last 24 hours to the petition, it's now at over 11.350. Looks like GN has kick started it again. Keep sharing, you never know what the effect of people power may be. Not holding my breath, but you never know.

Alegrias1 Thu 06-Jan-22 20:02:40

aaarrrggghhhh!

Except for oofy. She's my new friend.

sweetcakes Thu 06-Jan-22 19:56:44

I've signed and it should be everyone one in the UK not just England that pays for prescriptions its not fair otherwise!

Gwyneth Thu 06-Jan-22 19:09:40

A lot of people do not pay for prescriptions as pointed out by a previous poster. If you are still working at 60 plus why shouldn’t you pay for your prescriptions? I think it’s probably fair that it should be linked to State Pension age. If people can afford to pay they should. After all this is money going back into the NHS.

paddyann54 Thu 06-Jan-22 19:01:48

lizziefish1 "its not fair? Why did you vote for a government that 's happy to pile on the agony then ,yes we get "free" prescriptions and care for not just the elderly but people who need it .like my chronically ill 44 year old daughter.Free bus passes for over 60 and everyone under 22 ,an extra child payment for families on benefits of £20 per child under 16 and much much more .BUT we do it on a specified budget which we cant EVER overspend.Maybe you have to speak to your MP and find out why the government in England cant live by a set budget liek the rest of us have to?
We pay higher tax and like me my friends would happily pay an extra couple of pennies in the £ if it means we can get the important things done .Is it FAIR that Scotland has to pay a share of debts we didn't incur? Like Londons sewers or London crossrail or HS2 .?

4allweknow Thu 06-Jan-22 18:48:33

Each nation has its own National Health Service hence there can be variations on treatments etc but thought free prescriptions for over 60s was applied by all 4 nations.

harrysgran Thu 06-Jan-22 18:43:23

I can't say it's fair enough at 65 I still have to work full-time on a low wage and need monthly prescriptions for 3 serious conditions including asthma this will be a struggle for me

HannahLoisLuke Thu 06-Jan-22 17:48:10

growstuff

HannahLoisLuke

If you’re diabetic like my ex you get all prescriptions free whatever your age. He even gets aspirin, paracetamol etc on prescription when they’re pence to buy. I agree that life saving insulin has to be free but everything?
There are many examples of money wasted in the NHS including paying armies of administrators to control this sort of thing. As long as that goes on they’ll try to claw money back from those who can least afford it.

Undoubtedly you're aware that diabetes is a condition which causes damage to many organs of the body, including the heart, liver, kidneys, eyes and nervous system. Diabetics are prone to neuropathy and infections can cause glucose levels to go haywire. Having diabetes means that infections often take longer to clear. Do you really think it's a waste of money to try and prevent diabetics from being affected by conditions which kill them?

No of course not but to issue prescriptions for things like paracetamol and antacids which can be bought over the counter for about a £1 but on prescription the cost of that prescription is reclaimed from the government, currently over £9 per item. Does that make sense?

Munchy25 Thu 06-Jan-22 17:34:06

I keep hearing about how they’re free in Scotland and Wales, so go live there !

happycatholicwife1 Thu 06-Jan-22 17:34:02

Artaylar, what about rare and very expensive prescriptions? Is every Rx free in Wales?

Lizzifish1 Thu 06-Jan-22 17:27:59

I felt it was slight compensation for having my retirement snatched from me! Its not fair that Scotland and Wales have free prescriptions for all!

Munchy25 Thu 06-Jan-22 17:27:39

Anyone on any kind of benefit don’t pay, neither does anyone pregnant or who has had a baby in the last year, children don’t pay, anyone who has diabetes or cancer or any life long illness so it fact there are very few people who pay for prescriptions. If you do then there is the option of paying £130 for a yearly prepayment card. Before people start screaming about this government being unfair they should stand back and think exactly who is going to pay for our drugs they are not cheap and new ones are being developed all the time to treat an ever wider scope of illnesses. The health service would easily swallow up every penny that this country earns and people would still scream for more.. Get real people. And yes before you ask I am 60 and this would mean that I would have to pay an and only have an income a little over the official poverty line but I am just thankful that we have such a good health service. People should stop and think about how lucky we are.

Oofy Thu 06-Jan-22 17:23:04

Not often I agree with Alegrias (though staying out of the politics). Lots of different charges for things depending on which devolved government is dictating policy, and levying local taxes As far as I know, social old age care is still free in Scotland, but not in E&W, don’t know about NI, university student tuition is free to Scots and (used to be, don’t know if it changed after Brexit) free to EU students, but English were charged, in Wales we pay double council tax on outbuildings on our plot which have a separate door and toilet, as they are classed as second homes. As someone said upthread, be careful what you wish for