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Kateykrunch Wed 08-Jun-22 14:33:59

I am having a reasonable recovery from my mastectomy after my 2nd cancer diagnosis. I dont know how to react about the lack of contact from some of my friends. My Daughter got married 10 days ago, one of my friends has not been in touch since before the wedding to ask about how it went or even how I am, until today when she sent me a photo of a big purchase item she collected on Monday. Another friend, has not contacted me at all and she has been through a similar experience and knew I was struggling. My Cousin who I had been in regular contact with when I told her of my new diagnosis, just replied that she didnt know what to say and hasnt been in touch since. I know I can contact them, but I am hesitant, I feel hurt and wonder if I should just take a hint. Any words of wisdom gratefully received, thanks, Billy, I mean Katey x

welbeck Wed 08-Jun-22 14:38:58

are there any cancer support groups that you are/ could be in touch with.
you might find more friendly support from people who have been through something similar.
i can understand that you feel disappointed, hurt.
but realistically, people can't give what they haven't got.
maybe they were more acquaintances than friends.
good luck.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 08-Jun-22 14:39:36

Sometimes people just do not know what to say or how to say it so it’s easier not to say anything at all.

kittylester Wed 08-Jun-22 14:42:06

Thst's hard Katey. All I can think is that cancer is still a very scary word to some people.

No-one here will ignore you. 9r you could try going into the kitchen (take cake) or the Argy (if you are brave enough!)

My daughter had a mastectomy about 6 weeks ago and is starting chemo in 2 weeks so I might need a friend. Though I have had lots of support here (and in RL!!) since she was diagnosed.

sharon103 Wed 08-Jun-22 14:44:20

So hurtful isn't it Kateykrunch
Some people bury their head in the sand and hope it's not happening.
Some don't know what to say, but I always feel that you find out who your true friends are when you really need them.
Sending hugs and a speedy recovery flowers

Shandy57 Wed 08-Jun-22 14:45:47

People are disappointing aren't they. All they need to do is send a get well card!

Did you lose your lymph glands as well? Hope you aren't too sore. Big get well wishes from me, I hope you recover well.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jun-22 14:48:12

That is hard, but I think gg13 is right. People simply do not know how to respond. I know it might go against the grain, but perhaps if you make first contact and talk about your cancer it will break the ice and they might feel more able to talk to you.

Meanwhile I am told that the kitchen is a very good place for support and care, so do put a toe into there if you feel able?

sodapop Wed 08-Jun-22 14:49:40

GrannyGravy13

Sometimes people just do not know what to say or how to say it so it’s easier not to say anything at all.

I agree with GrannyGravy13 people don't realise how helpful and comforting it is to have support from friends, just a quick call or message means a lot.

Hope you have a speedy recovery Kateykrunch thanks

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 08-Jun-22 14:51:47

When I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2017 pretty well all of my friends and relatives were in touch. Except for a very good friend who I had supported through her husband’s death and her son’s death. Nothing. I sent Christmas cards and the odd message. Still nothing. Then a year or so ago she got in touch. I agreed to have lunch, but she’s the lady who loses it in restaurants and sends her food back!

Hetty58 Wed 08-Jun-22 14:55:54

Kateykrunch, when you're ill, bereaved, divorced etc. people do, genuinely, worry about 'saying the wrong thing' or 'reminding you' (as if you've forgotten) so they avoid contact to save themselves embarrassment. They really disappoint you.

You could develop a thick skin and proactively take the lead to renew friendships, perhaps indicating that discussions on the subject are kept short, you're fine - so carry on as normal please.

Another way is to make new friends through a shared activity (anything) and find that you're accepted just as you are right now - in a relaxed atmosphere - it's wonderful.

MawtheMerrier Wed 08-Jun-22 14:58:34

It's just not fair!
You can do everything possible to BE a good friend and it s such a let down when others seemingly didn't get the memo.
I was brought up to believe that to have good friends you have to be a good friend - but alas.
I think I would quietly withdraw from those who have let me down , write it down to experience and concentrate on the others.
But I see exactly where you are coming from flowersflowers

crazyH Wed 08-Jun-22 15:06:39

Katey- flowers for you
Kitty - for your darling daughter

nadateturbe Wed 08-Jun-22 15:06:50

I know what you mean Kateykrunch.
It's disappointing. I haven't had anything like you, but I have had an illness recently, quite serious and no one seemed to care.
I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, that perhaps they don't realise how ill I was, or perhaps they are having a bad time themselves.
But in your case, I'm not sure, especially the friend who has been through the same thing. Perhaps they really don't know what to say. If they are important to you, I think I would talk to them about it.
When it comes down to it, sometimes friends/family just don't give what you would like or need. I'm sure I'm guilty of that too. We have to choose to love them as they are, as they must do with us.

I'm glad you're recovering. ~It's a lot to cope with, having a second diagnosis and a mastectomy. flowers

crazyH Wed 08-Jun-22 15:07:59

Kitty yes, flowers

Aveline Wed 08-Jun-22 15:09:13

How rotten. It's completely understandable how you feel. The others have made good suggestions. You can always come on here to let off steam or look for support. Meanwhile, take it easy. brewflowers

Namsnanny Wed 08-Jun-22 15:14:21

MawtheMerrier

It's just not fair!
You can do everything possible to BE a good friend and it s such a let down when others seemingly didn't get the memo.
I was brought up to believe that to have good friends you have to be a good friend - but alas.
I think I would quietly withdraw from those who have let me down , write it down to experience and concentrate on the others.
But I see exactly where you are coming from flowersflowers

This is how I feel, so no need to repeat.
I would add that people are very selfish. Afterall, it isnt about how awkward they feel, it's about finding the strength to support a friend regardless.
Look in other places from now on.
You need your strength to get better.
Which I hope will be soon flowers

Kate1949 Wed 08-Jun-22 15:26:47

Sorry you have experienced this. flowers. I agree that some people can't cope with the word cancer. It's as if it's something that happens to other people.
When our nephew had leukemia, my older sister wouldn't visit him as 'it upset her'. Never mind what that poor lad and his parents were going through. I was very annoyed with her.

Katyj Wed 08-Jun-22 15:30:30

So sorry Katey. People can be very disappointing and hurtful. There really is no excuse, even a few words in a card is better than nothing. Being a good friend is give and take and is sometimes hard work. Hope your feel much better soon, and go out and about and make lots of new friends flowers

HousePlantQueen Wed 08-Jun-22 15:35:31

How upsetting and disappointing for you, I can understand how you feel. Just keep on posting here, you will find many online friends who will hand hold, moan with you, make you laugh and generally empathise. This site has been a god send to many who have had very difficult events.

Doodledog Wed 08-Jun-22 15:43:09

I'm sorry to hear this, Katey.

I agree with the others that it is probably because people don't know what to say that they stay away, and then it gets too awkward for them to get in touch.

Also, I think that many people became quite selfish in the pandemic, thinking that because their own lives had been restricted, those who were really locked down didn't need consideration, and that may have extended to their feelings about subsequent illnesses.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Jun-22 15:44:02

I agree that people don’t know what to say. I phoned a friend yesterday who had recently lost her husband and I asked her if she wanted us to continue to talk about her wonderful husband and we agreed that we would. So that’s what we’ll do but if she finds it difficult she’s just to tell me. I know sometimes it’s best not to mention some things as people might be just about holding it together and a reference to the illness or the loss can make them break down. That’s why gransnet is so good because there’s always someone on here to talk to. My thoughts are with everyone going through bad things at the moment x

Esspee Wed 08-Jun-22 15:59:16

When my husband was diagnosed with terminal cancer I finally realised that some people I thought were friends were not. I am still pleasant when I see them but never again will I consider them as friends.
Just concentrate on getting well. We are here for you whenever you want someone to communicate with. ?

AGAA4 Wed 08-Jun-22 16:05:29

I think this sorts out who are really friends. After my DH died some who I thought of as friends didn't get in touch.

The ones who overcame the difficulty of contacting me are true friends. It isn't easy knowing what to say to someone who is seriously ill or bereaved but if you care you will do it.

There is lots of support for people going through cancer and groups you can attend when you feel a bit better. When I had my cancer diagnosis I was surprised how much help is available and a way to make new friends.

Grammaretto Wed 08-Jun-22 16:18:33

I joined a cancer facebook group when DH was diagnosed and I found it was helpful. People on here have been really supportive, before and since he died.
Most friends in RL have been great but he had a lot of friends and colleagues and hardly any have been near. I had an avalanche of condolence cards but then nothing.
However I realise it works both ways and when I am up to it, I phone people such as his siblings and cousins and we meet for lunch or a coffee.
One cousin is coming from America next month to stay with me.
Kitty I hope your DD makes an excellent recovery and KateyK please post on here whenever you want.

dogsmother Wed 08-Jun-22 16:23:32

So pleased that you are having a good recovery from your mastectomy, is there a support group that you can get involved with?
Friends can be hopeless. I’ve so learned of situational friendships and that real friends are the two or three if you are lucky….. it’s. when we are faced with serious situations that we sadly have to learn these lessons.
? from me too