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Has anyone reported a non-taxed vehicle to the DVLA and did they take action?

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25Avalon Mon 17-Jul-23 10:17:11

Two weeks ago I was working in the garden some distance from the house when Evri arrived to deliver a parcel. I asked the driver to take the parcel to the door as per delivery instructions but he refused and threw the parcel at me before getting back into his van. He roared off quickly, backwards, when he saw me take my mobile out to take a photo of his van which I thought was suspicious. I’ve complained to Lakeland the supplier and Evri but nothing back.

Then on Saturday I saw this van being driven in the village with the same young foreign man driving. I took a note of the number and on checking through DVLA when I got home discovered its road tax ran out in May. This means he is driving around untaxed and uninsured as a courier. I’ve reported it online but will DVLA take any action? Does anyone know?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 17-Jul-23 12:58:31

Btw FP obviously GN considered your previous post was offensive as it’s been deleted - and no, I didn’t report it.

Calendargirl Mon 17-Jul-23 13:13:22

I don’t agree with the untaxed vehicle, if that’s the case, but if I were working in my garden and a delivery arrived, I would be quite happy to take it from the driver to save him going to the door, regardless of the fact that it said ‘to be delivered to the door’.

eazybee Mon 17-Jul-23 13:33:20

I know there would be serious consequences if the driver were to be involved in an accident, but I don't think that is the motivation that is driving the OP.
The van driver has committed an offence, no question, but rather excessive, not to say spiteful, to take a photograph two weeks later, then check on tax, insurance etc then report to the DVLA, because he didn't put your parcel where you wanted it and the company didn't respond to your complaint.
And if he' threw the parcel at you' you can't have been that far away.

Freya5 Mon 17-Jul-23 13:58:26

So if OP hadn't reported it ,he'd have carried on driving,no tax, no insurance, possibly over his legal DL allotted time. Too many drivers of this ilk get away with these illegal activies, why, because people turn a blind eye, and call one's who report things , spiteful. The responsibility of him possibly losing his job, its down to the rule breakers themselves.
Throwing a parcel at someone is appalling customer service,however near they were. No wonder this country is in the state its in.

25Avalon Mon 17-Jul-23 14:06:54

To clarify:
I regularly experience trouble with Evri. Parcels are dumped in rubbish bins, left outside my property, thrown under bushes any where but to my door. It is a long way from my back gate to the door, the gate is not visible from my house, is next to a road where things have gone missing and having a poorly back I always specify delivery to my porch where items can be left safely and I do not have far to carry them.

As for racism our DPD driver is probably East European and is lovely. Always smiling, delivers everything to my door even really heavy bulky packages without complaint, is extremely friendly and always asks how I am. I always thank him. He is great. The Amazon driver delivers to my door and we have a friendly chat, and I always thank him. He happens to be black. Another great guy.

I mentioned the Evri driver was foreign as background as I wondered from the way he zoomed off when I went to take a photo if something wasn’t quite right. I wanted to take a photo of the van and registration number to forward to the supplier, but wasn’t fast enough. So when I saw him 10 days later in the village driving around doing deliveries I memorised the number. I then came home and checked it out to find the van was not taxed and any insurance would, therefore be invalid.

What if he hits another car, knocks someone over as he roars around from delivery to delivery? So I reported to DVLA. I will tell the supplier to whom I have already complained? Speaking to someone at Evri is practically impossible. Not sure the police will do anything. Whatever his nationality this man should not be driving without tax and insurance.

I will not use anyone who uses Evri whilst they employ this man.

Georgesgran Mon 17-Jul-23 14:14:29

Police first I think. It’s awful when innocent motorists have to fund their own repairs and possibly lose their NCB when hit by an uninsured driver.
It also concerns me the number of young lads, often on L plates weaving through and around traffic with food deliveries on small motorbikes and scooters. I wonder if they’ve insured their machines (at all) also for business use - I don’t suppose their employers could give a monkey’s, as long as the goods are delivered as quickly as possible.
DD1 reported an abandoned vehicle where she used to live. It took months to confirm it was unregistered, uninsured, unused, unroadworthy and abandoned before it was uplifted.

eazybee Mon 17-Jul-23 14:54:17

Two weeks ago I was working in the garden some distance from the house when Evri arrived to deliver a parcel. I asked the driver to take the parcel to the door as per delivery instructions but he refused and threw the parcel at me before getting back into his van.

Your words, so you clearly saw and spoke to each other.
I am not excusing his behaviour and you made a complaint, which was ignored, which is wrong; I have only had occasion to complain twice and both times the complaints were dealt with swiftly and politely.
I am not excusing his lack of insurance either, but to go to the extent of checking up on him because you didn't like his behaviour, when he did deliver your parcel, strikes me as extreme.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 17-Jul-23 15:05:27

Perhaps so, but is she hadn’t would he ever have been caught?

Cressida Mon 17-Jul-23 15:09:13

25Avalon if you see him again and can video the vehicle being driven you could report it via the National dashcam portal nextbase.co.uk/national-dash-cam-safety-portal/

It's not just for dashcam footage. Any video of a driving offence can be submitted as long as the registration can be read.

We have a problem with motorbikes coming through a pedestrian underpass close to our house. Our CCTV just covers the railings at the underpass so I've been using that link to report the ones with number plates. I've reported 2 today both were untaxed.

25Avalon Mon 17-Jul-23 15:46:52

eazybee

Two weeks ago I was working in the garden some distance from the house when Evri arrived to deliver a parcel. I asked the driver to take the parcel to the door as per delivery instructions but he refused and threw the parcel at me before getting back into his van.

Your words, so you clearly saw and spoke to each other.
I am not excusing his behaviour and you made a complaint, which was ignored, which is wrong; I have only had occasion to complain twice and both times the complaints were dealt with swiftly and politely.
I am not excusing his lack of insurance either, but to go to the extent of checking up on him because you didn't like his behaviour, when he did deliver your parcel, strikes me as extreme.

Read my words. I have problems with my back. I cannot carry parcels down two flights of garden steps to my door. Driver was extremely rude. Was he got into his van and saw me about to take a photo of the van he couldn’t drive away fast enough. He turned round up the road to come back down past the gate but when he saw I was still there quickly turned again and drove off in the opposite direction, taking him several miles out of his way. I regarded that as highly suspicious. He didn’t want me to note his registration number. When I complained I was expecting he would be sacked. Then I would be able to receive a proper delivery rather than things chucked in the rubbish bin.

10 days later he is driving in the village. I see his number clearly and memorise it. I do not photo it Ok? Because I suspected from his previous behaviour he was breaking the law I checked it out and he was. I reported to the DVLA as he is a DANGER. So if he hits your car and you can’t claim on his insurance you won’t mind will you?

Theexwife Mon 17-Jul-23 16:08:26

When I complained I was expecting he would be sacked.

That is the sentence I have a problem with, taking photos of vehicles that you want to report for traffic offences I can understand, wanting someone to get the sack for delivering the parcel to the wrong place is extreme.

25Avalon Mon 17-Jul-23 16:20:42

Theexwife

^When I complained I was expecting he would be sacked.^

That is the sentence I have a problem with, taking photos of vehicles that you want to report for traffic offences I can understand, wanting someone to get the sack for delivering the parcel to the wrong place is extreme.

Not when you have had bad deliveries for several months and that person is extremely rude, to the point you will no longer order from anyone who uses Evri as a carrier. You would wish for someone who delivers properly, like a younger friend of mine who is an Evri driver in another area and goes over and above. She was horrified.

I did not report him to DVLA to get him sacked but to get this untaxed vehicle off the road. It was only because he acted so furtively and suspiciously that I looked it up. He may not even own the vehicle for all I know but it should not be driving round the lanes.

BTW did you know Evri drivers are not DBS checked? Post office workers are.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 17-Jul-23 16:28:39

Reporting to DVLA isn’t the way to go. As I have already said, you should report the untaxed and probably consequently uninsured vehicle to the police. Driving without insurance is a matter for the police to investigate and put a stop to.

Beetlejuice Mon 17-Jul-23 16:33:33

Personally I don't care why, when or how the OP took the details of the vehicle. Nor do I care that she had poor customer service from the delivery guy. I care even less what his nationality is. But I'm very glad that she's taken steps to remove one more untaxed, and therefore uninsured, driver off the roads. Having had my own car rear ended by an uninsured driver, I know only too well how much time, trouble and inconvenience it took to resolve the matter. Even worse, every other legally insured driver on the roads has to pay extra in their annual premiums to provide funds for the Motor Insurers Bureau to cover for claims against feckless uninsured idiots. Nice one OP.

MerylStreep Mon 17-Jul-23 16:33:42

He’s lucky he hasn’t been caught on a ANPR camera.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 17-Jul-23 16:36:12

👏👏👏*Beetlejuice*.

Chapeau Mon 17-Jul-23 16:53:15

Wellbeck you are quite correct - you can drive on a foreign license or an International Driving Permit for 1 year in the UK. If you haven't taken a driving test during this period then you need to apply for a UK provisional license and use L plates until you take and pass a driving test.
Many years ago I learned to drive in Burma (as it was back then) and I returned to the UK clutching my Burmese license with no working knowledge of how a roundabout works, what to do at traffic lights or even how to park. My dad had booked me in for a test in my first week home. I drove myself to my test which I failed dramatically within the first 5 minutes. Then I drove home! I continued to drive for another 6 months on a license that only really qualified me to drive jeeps through the jungle and grapple with monsoon flooding. After signing up for driving lessons I passed my test on my next attempt...6 hours before I gave birth to my eldest son.

62Granny Mon 17-Jul-23 17:33:00

I am sure the car would be picked up by one of the many DVLA vans in the area of not already he will soon.
Can I ask why you didn't want to take the parcel in your garden , surely it would have been easier than having to go to the front door to retrieve it?
I appreciate your hands may have been dirty but you could have put it by your back door ready to take on when you had cleaned up.

Fleurpepper Mon 17-Jul-23 17:58:32

Because it is irrelevant.

From OP ''He roared off quickly, backwards, when he saw me take my mobile out to take a photo of his van which I thought was suspicious.''

how did the van look suspicious and why?

Fleurpepper Mon 17-Jul-23 18:02:37

The Road Tax was out of date, which is wrong of course- but this does not mean this man's driving licence is not totally legal and valid. If he comes from EU, he would have had to exchange it for a UK one, just the same as British expats have to exchange theirs for a European (where resident) one- totally legally.

(Before 1973- there was no exchange possible, foreign licence drivers could drive on their foreign licence for one year, if in the UK temporarily, or for 6 months, if permanently resident in UK, and re-take licence in full, in English.

Fleurpepper Mon 17-Jul-23 18:04:03

Beetlejuice

Personally I don't care why, when or how the OP took the details of the vehicle. Nor do I care that she had poor customer service from the delivery guy. I care even less what his nationality is. But I'm very glad that she's taken steps to remove one more untaxed, and therefore uninsured, driver off the roads. Having had my own car rear ended by an uninsured driver, I know only too well how much time, trouble and inconvenience it took to resolve the matter. Even worse, every other legally insured driver on the roads has to pay extra in their annual premiums to provide funds for the Motor Insurers Bureau to cover for claims against feckless uninsured idiots. Nice one OP.

For sure. There are 1000s of UK drivers who are un-insured and who do not have valid licences, not just 'foreigners' (hence the irrelevance).

Beetlejuice Mon 17-Jul-23 18:12:41

Any one of these Fleurpepper?

The livery logo on the side of the van may have had a contact telephone number on it?
Number plates didn't correspond front to back of vehicle?
The vehicle was being driven erratically?
OP had smelt alcohol on the driver's breath?
The driver seemed overly anxious to exit the scene?
OP felt that the driver's behaviour was unusual/suspicious?

Why is it relevant?

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 17-Jul-23 18:15:15

It’s only relevant because Fleurpepper insists on making it so. Nobody else.

Beetlejuice Mon 17-Jul-23 18:15:33

Who said it was just 'foreigners Fleurpepper? And where did they say that? I'm becoming suspicious of where your questions are leading and why you're doing it.

maddyone Mon 17-Jul-23 18:15:45

Germanshepherdsmum

He wasn’t doing his job very well, was he? If the vehicle belongs to him and he hasn’t taxed it, then if he loses his job as a consequence he has only himself to blame.

Quite!