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Partner refuses to speak to my 8 year old grandson

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sandra13 Sun 28-Jan-24 00:47:29

My OH (of just over a year) refuses to speak on the phone to my oldest GS who is 8. He says it’s because he found him rude the first time he met him a year ago. I have tried to get him to accept that sometimes kids are not at their best when meeting people for the first time. He’s 78 and insists that when he was a child he never interrupted. I’ve tried to tell him that times have changed but he refuses to listen. I’ve asked him to move on and try build a relationship with my GS but he flatly refuses. My OH and I live abroad and he only sees my family 3-4 times a year for a couple of hours at a time. I visit more often. I’m alone at the moment and my GS is coming on a sleepover tomorrow and my OH has told me to tell my grandson to leave me alone in another room and not interrupt me when I am talking on the phone to him. I don’t want to do that because if my GS does interrupt me my OH will sulk and use it as another reason to confirm why he doesn’t like him. He has no relationship with his own granddaughters (8 and 10) and blames his daughter, but I think he is the problem. His biggest concern with his GDs is that they are doted on my their mother.
I think he is being self-centred. I have given up most of my time with my family to live abroad with him but his behaviour indicates that I must always put him first (but without actually saying that).
Advice please.

Thisismyname1953 Wed 21-Feb-24 21:55:38

He just may not like children. He doesn’t consider himself a grandparent to the boy, so why the need to speak to him on the phone?
I don’t like children much and I have 5 grandchildren. I never phone them and most of them don’t phone me but we keep in touch by text or in person.The exception is my youngest granddaughter who is 12 and is autistic and can have major meltdowns lasting hours .
If she has one at bedtime and nobody gets to sleep in their house my son tells her to FaceTime me and I talk a lot of boring rubbish to her and she eventually falls asleep. These calls can be anything up to 1am and can last up to 2 hours but if it helps her then I don’t mind .
I wouldn’t be wanting to talk to an 8 year old child that I hardly know though .

SeaWoozle Wed 14-Feb-24 02:01:02

So your SO of a year whisked you off to another country and now refuses to speak to your family and sulks when you do?

My advice?

A one way ticket back home to the people who really love you.
He's isolated you, and now blames you and everyone else for his misery. It doesn't matter how old he is or what happened a gazillion years ago. And the fact he has no relationship with his own family should tell you everything you need to know.

Go. Home X

Ali08 Thu 08-Feb-24 15:29:14

If you're happy to stay with this controlling manchild, I'd advise making a will that will see that all of your assets go to your family, leaving him out of it or with very little!!
Also, any life insurance you have should go to your funeral first (all arranged by you or left to family to arrange) and then to your family, possibly even a good sum to your DGC.
This manchild is giving off too many red flags, and by this time next year you probably won't be in touch with your family, just as he is not with his - and I wonder what he's hiding there!?!

NotSpaghetti Tue 30-Jan-24 11:13:58

I wonder what draws you to this nan?
What does he give you that you need?

Do you really need him at all?

Would you be better separated but with (say) the odd outing - or will he still want to control the rest of your life?

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 21:38:43

brew hello!

Ladyleftfieldlover Mon 29-Jan-24 20:47:47

Hello MissAdventure. Welcome back!

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 20:05:20

smile
Thank you.
You are all very kind

Grammaretto Mon 29-Jan-24 19:28:38

Hello MissAdventure you've been much missed. Hope all is well with you.

JaneJudge Mon 29-Jan-24 18:27:24

MissAdventure

It has.
A year?
Something like that

I am super pleased you are back smile

BlueBelle Mon 29-Jan-24 17:23:44

missadventure another pleased to see you back 👋

RosiesMaw Mon 29-Jan-24 17:11:33

sandra13

This is actually a true story.

His take on my reaction is that I’ve “made a major thing out of a hiccup”.

Gaslighting - pure and simple.

RosiesMaw Mon 29-Jan-24 17:10:36

Find someone who is as lax on manners as you are

Ooh! Kettle, pot, black? .

OldFrill Mon 29-Jan-24 16:59:15

sandra13

This is actually a true story.

His take on my reaction is that I’ve “made a major thing out of a hiccup”.

This demonstrates how apart his thinking is from yours - it may seem a hiccough to him but it's major to you. He's demeaning you and your feelings. At 78 l doubt you'll change him, I'd be distancing myself very quickly. A partner should be supportive, he's destructive.

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 16:47:09

🙂 thank you, Dickens

Dickens Mon 29-Jan-24 16:14:56

Calling it a "hiccup" and the accusation of over-reacting remind me of the tactics some people use when they want to wind you up.

They say obnoxious things that are designed to provoke and then, when you respond in the way they hoped you would, act in an 'innocent' superior manner and make comments such as, "oh dear, you seem upset", or, "gosh, you sound angry".

It's nasty.

Dickens Mon 29-Jan-24 16:07:15

MissAdventure

He sounds a real old misery.
It is a shame though, if you're very fond of him, but honestly, who wants to be told what to do?

Hey - good to see you back! smile

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 15:53:04

Thats blooming marvellous news, whiff
What a long, long wait you had!

TinSoldier Mon 29-Jan-24 15:50:48

I’d love to know what this perceived rudeness was when he first met your (then) seven-year-old GS. Something so heinous that he, a grown man, is still festering about it a year later! You said that GS had interrupted him. Is that all? That’s just how animated conversation goes. Children are excitable.

You said: I’ve asked him to move on and try to build a relationship with my GS but he flatly refuses. Flatly refuses.

It reminds me of the Cat Stevens song Father and Son.

How can I try to explain, cause when I do he turns away again
It's always been the same, same old story
From the moment I could talk I was ordered to listen
Now there's a way and I know that I have to go away …

That’s the thing that worries me about this. Your GS is old enough to be aware that he no longer sees you as much as he used to, that you now are living far away for much of the year with a man who doesn’t like him. That could so easily be interepreted in a child’s mind as Grandma goes away because I did something wrong. That kind of thing can play on a child’s mind for a very long time.

This isn’t a hiccup. Callistemon is right. This is a big red flag with narcissist written on it. He, a 78-year-old man is effectively giving your eight-year-old GS the silent treatment. It is a well-used weapon in the narcissist’s armoury because they know that it hurts. To do that to a child is unforgiveable.

Saying it’s just a hiccup is a form of baiting.

Baiting is a tactic used by a narcissist to intentionally provoke an emotional response from the victim, generally while feigning innocence.

Silent Treatment is a period of non-responsiveness in which the narcissist treats the person as if he or she doesn’t exist. The narcissist implements it as a form of punishment if a person engages in a behaviour that the narcissist doesn’t like.

You say he doesn't have a relationship with his own grandaughters of a similar age. In that case, he is unlikely to put himself out to have one with your GS. Only you know if that’s a deal breaker.

Whiff Mon 29-Jan-24 15:42:19

Miss Adventure another person glad to see you back. You helped me so much talking about your fight to get disability benefits. I finally got PIP last year after going to tribunal and enhanced for both indefinitely. Thank you inspired me to fight only took me 35 years but at least I won in the end.

Hope you are doing well .

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 15:37:58

Well, it's good to see you back again.

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 15:35:55

It has.
A year?
Something like that

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 15:33:03

MissAdventure

Blimey.
Excited?
Lovely to see you, too

😂😂😂
Well, it's been a while

MissAdventure Mon 29-Jan-24 15:23:52

Blimey.
Excited?
Lovely to see you, too

GrannyRose15 Mon 29-Jan-24 15:23:04

I have the most annoying GS possible. He never stops talking. drives me crazy at times. But if anyone ANYONE criticised him
like this man is doing it would be the selfish narcissist getting the silent treatment from me - for ever.

Callistemon21 Mon 29-Jan-24 15:21:20

MissAdventure

He sounds a real old misery.
It is a shame though, if you're very fond of him, but honestly, who wants to be told what to do?

Hello MissA!!
So excited to see you 😃