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Astitchintime Fri 12-Apr-24 07:49:44

Very early one morning I observed a man walking his dog. As they approached our driveway - we have no gates - the dog (a bitch) came a few feet onto the drive and peed. He made no attempt to entice her off the driveway and back onto the path and we were left with a puddle of dog pee that would no doubt attract other dogs to do the same.
I wasn't dressed at the time so had no intention of confronting him there and then. But I am not sure how to address this; the dog didn't defacate, just peed, but it was the nonchalant attitude of the owner that irks me.

Gwyllt Fri 12-Apr-24 18:06:06

You need a sign like this

Dickens Sat 13-Apr-24 09:19:28

I suppose it's not something that is peculiar to dog-owners, rather that a good proportion of people appear to be inconsiderate and uncivilised - and some of them own dogs.

I'm convinced that there are those who - for the sake of the animal as much as anything else - should just not be allowed to own them.

There is a property adjoining mine (we are terraced) - a huge house which has been hived off into two separate houses... with one garden. A very small patch of the garden has been sectioned off completely for the use of those in the smaller property - this patch of garden is very, very small. The owner rents out and lives in another county. A couple, late 20s, with a dog, have rented the smaller house. Both are out at work all day, and the dog has the run of the house and the patch of garden.

The larger house is un-tenanted.

One day, my gardener needed to access their 'garden' to lop off some foliage that was overgrowing into it. I called the owner of the house to get permission for the gardener to climb over the wall into his property, and that was agreed.

My gardener climbed over the adjoining wall and jumped down into the patch of garden - only to discover that he was ankle-deep in a carpet of dog-poo. He had his mobile phone in his pocket and photographed it. The tenants had simply left the dog-poo - probably from day one - to fester. I doubt they had ever picked it up.

I'd noticed an unpleasant 'smell' frequently, as had other neighbours, but we had no idea where it came from or what it might be.

The gardener forwarded the photo's to the landlord suggesting it was a health hazard. He evicted the tenants and had to have all the carpets ripped out and the house thoroughly cleaned as the poor animal had the run of the whole house, including the bedrooms and had obviously been trampling his own mess into the carpets. I looked at the photo's, there was barely a patch of clean grass anywhere (in fact, the grass had died-off) on the whole area- the tenants had lived there for about two years.

Frankly, I think the dog should have been removed from their care because their behaviour shows a complete lack of concern for the animal - apart from anything else.

I occasionally saw the dog as I passed the front of the house - peering through the window. It never barked, just sat looking out with a mournful face.

There are definitely those who should not be allowed to own a dog.

Georgesgran Sat 13-Apr-24 10:32:48

Our dogs were like that Primrose and Calendargirl.
We could control 10 working Springers with just a whistle and hand motions. It was a sight to see!

Calendargirl Sat 13-Apr-24 12:32:33

No point in complaining- you will only offend the dog’s owner

confused

Well, that wouldn’t concern me at all, and probably not the OP either.

kittylester Sat 13-Apr-24 12:59:04

Baggs

I am really pleased when I find hedgehog poo in our garden.

Me too, baggs. I make everyone come and look at it.

MissAdventure Sat 13-Apr-24 13:15:21

grin

buffyfly9 Sat 13-Apr-24 14:03:06

My niece has a Norfolk Terrier who flies about the place like a bullet out of a gun! She was walking her in the grounds of a NT property near where we live. There are cottages for the employees and as she let her dog off the lead it flew into the open front door of a cottage and disappeared. She called out, banged on the front and back doors but nobody was at home. The dog had gone upstairs and did not come down when called so she went upstairs to find her on a double bed, now covered with muddy paw prints as it had been raining. I pointed out that she could have been accused of burglary! She decided that discretion was the better part of Valour, picked the dog up and went home. I think I would have left a note but if something had gone missing a few days later she could possibly have been blamed. The moral is, don't leave everything unlocked and open but here in North Norfolk a lot of residents never lock their doors during the day as we perceive crime to be very low level. It's just dogs off leads that are the problemgrin.

Primrose53 Sat 13-Apr-24 14:18:50

It’s not just dogs that do this. We have a horse we keep in a field down the road. Poos are picked up every day and left on manure heaps in the field.

Twice already this year my husband has found human poo in the field with toilet paper or tissues! 😱

pascal30 Sat 13-Apr-24 15:22:42

You can buy some wonderful pump action water pistols

Romola Sat 13-Apr-24 23:52:27

Dickens, what a horrendous story.
Ours isn't nearly so bad, but here goes. Soon after we moved to the house we're in (well, just me now) a rather grand Italian business associate stepped into a fresh dog turd on our unfenced front garden, then took it all through the house. Everyone was mortified.
After that, I insisted that the front garden was fenced - in fact we grew a hedge around it, which was resented by our new neighbours, but we didn't care. And with all the Covid cockerpoo dogs being walked along our lane, I'm really glad of that hedge.

Dickens Sun 14-Apr-24 11:56:12

Romola

Dickens, what a horrendous story.
Ours isn't nearly so bad, but here goes. Soon after we moved to the house we're in (well, just me now) a rather grand Italian business associate stepped into a fresh dog turd on our unfenced front garden, then took it all through the house. Everyone was mortified.
After that, I insisted that the front garden was fenced - in fact we grew a hedge around it, which was resented by our new neighbours, but we didn't care. And with all the Covid cockerpoo dogs being walked along our lane, I'm really glad of that hedge.

After that, I insisted that the front garden was fenced - in fact we grew a hedge around it, which was resented by our new neighbours, but we didn't care.

Heavens! Why on earth would your neighbours resent you hedging your own front garden?! It's a fairly standard procedure with gardens facing the street.

... I'm imagining your rather grand Italian business associate wearing very expensive leather loafers or some such, and being horrified at them being so fouled! grin

It seems to be the thinking among some dog-owners that if a house has a front garden - unfenced - then that part of the property is common ground. I'm puzzled at the mentality of it.

Esmay Sun 14-Apr-24 13:33:59

I'm wondering whether to re -establish old fashioned fencing and gates in the front garden .
It won't stop the real problem that I have -foxes scenting , pooing and generally destroying the garden .

Gummie Sun 14-Apr-24 14:37:01

If you hadn't seen the peeing in motion would you have know it was there later in the day?

Dickens Sun 14-Apr-24 15:11:41

Gummie

If you hadn't seen the peeing in motion would you have know it was there later in the day?

She might not have noticed.

However, dog urine can turn grass yellow and cause it to die-off.

Dogs are known to sniff out the urine scent of other dogs and whilst doing so, will probably pee themselves to leave their own mark. So you could end up with a bit of a patchy lawn.

Does it matter? I think it does. If you buy a house you own the garden - why should others think its their right to use it like common ground?

Accidents happen and sometimes a dog will just pee where it wants to - but it appears that some owners seem to believe they have some special rights that the rest of us don't understand.

I have actually seen a man deliberately follow his dog on a lead up a driveway almost to the front door, standing watching it do a huge poo against the garden wall in the driveway.

I'm amazed at the mentality of such an individual

Gwyllt Sun 14-Apr-24 16:02:54

Installing a gate will just mean the dogs will pee up the gate instead

Esmay Sun 14-Apr-24 16:11:02

I don't mind if dogs pee up the gate . I'd like them to stop peeing and pooing on the lawn .

nadateturbe Sun 14-Apr-24 16:17:45

Calendargirl

Oh, I wondered what an ‘influenced’ garden was.

Being led astray by other naughty gardens….

Or being well behaved, modelled on ‘good’ gardens…

I was wondering too.

nadateturbe Sun 14-Apr-24 16:21:13

Dog owner shouldn't let dog on to someone's driveway. But I would say nothing.

RosiesMaw Sun 14-Apr-24 16:23:53

“Dog pees on ground.”

It’s hardly Stop Press is it?

Callistemon21 Sun 14-Apr-24 18:58:56

nadateturbe

Calendargirl

Oh, I wondered what an ‘influenced’ garden was.

Being led astray by other naughty gardens….

Or being well behaved, modelled on ‘good’ gardens…

I was wondering too.

You're not going to let me forget it are you!!

Influenced by Capability Brown 😁

MissAdventure Sun 14-Apr-24 19:02:52

I have a cat that piddles outside mine, which has lead to every cat and dog for miles also having a go.
It's revolting.

Dickens Sun 14-Apr-24 19:06:16

nadateturbe

Dog owner shouldn't let dog on to someone's driveway. But I would say nothing.

... would you not?

For fear of offending, or fear of the owner being aggressive?

,,, the latter I can understand.

Calendargirl Mon 15-Apr-24 07:22:06

RosiesMaw

“Dog pees on ground.”

It’s hardly Stop Press is it?

Lots of stuff on GN is not ‘Stop Press’ either, but irresponsible dog owners letting their pet encroach on other people’s drives is worth bringing up it seems.

Also happened ‘very early one morning’. Would he be more careful later on, when he thought he might be observed?

RosiesMaw Mon 15-Apr-24 08:56:45

I can’t believe for a minute that the owner encouraged the dog on to the drive, but once a dog starts to squat for a wee or cock its leg there’s not a lot you can do as the process will have started.
I’m sure the recent rain will more than have washed it away but it still seems unnecessarily precious .
It reminds me of somebody in our village who posted on FB that she found it disgusting that horses poo’d on the road. What did she expect?( Most people would be out there with a spade collecting the droppings for the roses!)
If it had been Rosie I would not have let her go into someone’s garden anyway but if in the gateway ie on the pavement, well that’s a public footpath. And you don’t get grass on a drive, so nothing to turn yellow.
But I am wondering AIBU to feel a smidgen victimised now as a dog owner?

nadateturbe Mon 15-Apr-24 09:31:49

Dickens

nadateturbe

Dog owner shouldn't let dog on to someone's driveway. But I would say nothing.

... would you not?

For fear of offending, or fear of the owner being aggressive?

,,, the latter I can understand.

The latter Dickens. I would only worry about offending someone I know, and I wouldn't expect someone I know to let their dog do this.
When you walk your dog, you should respect other people's property.