Gransnet forums

Ask a gran

Asking for lodger to leave

(62 Posts)
Regina65 Thu 04-Jul-24 13:21:47

Hi I have a lodger who today I gave him 28 days notice to leave.he has asked me for a reason why he has to go so I said I'd like my house back and planning to move within the next 2 to 3 months to a sheltered accommodation due to my disability and need to start packing getting rid of stuff.He stated that 28 days isn't enough time and that I can use other room for storage.to be honest I want him gone asap he cooks late at night till early hours I can't get to sleep.he talks loud at night on speaker phone despite me telling him to lower it down.he interferes when I tell my granson off leaves stuff cooking on stove while going off to have a shower windows are shut kitchin full of steam have told him hundreds of times I do the telling off open windows when cooking but it doesn't seem to sink in his head.the last straw was he took my bottled water in his room plus helping himself to other stuff I csnt take anymore.the list goes on.1 time I was cooking he came in started cooking rather wait till I finished he carried on.i have the feeling he won't leave.i don't know what to do.he also told me his friend coming to stay for a week I told him he's not staying here but the lodger just went out without saying anything

OldFrill Sun 07-Jul-24 23:23:00

You do not need to serve eviction notice to lodger. He's being difficult, tell him to go by the end of the week. Change the locks, return his stuff. If he gives you hassle call the police.
I'd actually change the locks next time he's out and leave his stuff somewhere safe for him to collect.
england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/eviction/eviction_of_lodgers_and_other_excluded_occupiers

MamaB247 Sun 07-Jul-24 23:02:38

You need to get legal help, but if you haven't already you need to serve a proper eviction notice. To tell what type of eviction notice you need you'll have to look at the tenancy type you have him. You can't just assume you have the right to evcit him if he pays rent he has rights I'm afraid and you could end up in serious trouble if tis done incorrectly.

RVK1CR Sun 07-Jul-24 18:43:04

NfkDumpling

It sounds to me like a coercive relationship. You need professional legal help. Maybe the CAB or Age Concern can advise in the first instance.

Agree with this^^. Also, see if someone from the Elderly Care Team at the Local Council can visit you, when you know the lodger will be out, and explain everything and ask them to help you.

Nannashirlz Sun 07-Jul-24 18:06:34

I would have said I don’t need to give you a reason. You’re the lounger not my husband. I’m asking you to leave end of. If it’s a council don’t know arrangement I would get a locksmith out and put his stuff on front door. He doesn’t sound type that will walk away quietly you might need some back up. Go to local pub and ask the bouncer if you give them some cash will they help you.

Secondwind Sun 07-Jul-24 15:01:09

Goodness - what a worrying situation. I can offer no advice, but hope that things reach a swift resolution.
Best wishes to you.

Mojack26 Sun 07-Jul-24 14:41:35

Totally agree!

HiPpyChick57 Sun 07-Jul-24 14:39:38

I’d be interested to know just where his friend will be sleeping if he still has plans to come. Do you have a bed in your spare room that your lodger plans to let him stay even though you’ve said no.
Do you have a relative that could stay in that room for a while, or at least move the bed from out of there.
I have visions of you ending up with two bullying lodgers that you’ll have trouble getting rid of.

undines Sun 07-Jul-24 14:37:12

Oh how horrible for you! I know someone who hired a security guard for a confrontation (not the same, but similar position of vulnerable woman needing a bit of 'muscle' for her rights). It cost £1k, which I know is a lot, but it may be a thought?

HeavenLeigh Sun 07-Jul-24 14:27:58

Get advice not speak advice

HeavenLeigh Sun 07-Jul-24 14:27:11

I think you should ask age Uk for some advice. The lodger sounds a right pain in the bum. Sounds a bit of a bully! Wishing you lots of luck and hoping you settle into the new home and are very happy and can put this all behind you soon enough! I wouldn’t actually touch his things though. I’d speak advice and take from there

Romola Sun 07-Jul-24 14:02:33

Years ago, when DH and I were young and strong, we let a room to another young couple. It became clear that they were getting into serious debt, having filled their room to bursting point with all sorts of purchases. There were debt collectors at the door too often. They refused to leave. Eventually DH found out that they were taking power from the lamps (they had a meter for power but not for light) and called the police and the couple had to leave. It was a horrible experience.
Our own credit rating dropped through the floor and took ages to clear up.
After that, we let the room to the lovely girlfriend of DH's nephew, who had come to live with us. (They are now grandparents themselves. )

BlueBelle Sun 07-Jul-24 13:08:23

Regina I think the advice of having another person with you is a very good one even better if you have a couple of blokes spare
I can totally understand you need him out he doesn’t sound a good lodger at all I have many in the past and they ve all been good as gold but this one sounds a cocky young man and not one you should be sharing your house with
Stick to the notice you ve give him and if he doesn’t go then yes ask for police help I m sure they will they are usually very helpful I had a break in once and the policeman went off and got hammer and nails and put some wood up to secure my broken window. (it was a while back so perhaps they re not as helpful now I don’t know) but don’t just leave it get advice and get help

Tiley Sun 07-Jul-24 13:05:02

I would pack his stuff up and leave it on the doorstep and change the locks.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 07-Jul-24 12:59:15

Punctuation and sentences would have been a start Charleygirl!

HousePlantQueen Sun 07-Jul-24 12:49:26

Understandable though it is, threatening violence is not the answer. If you are unsure of your position, email Citizens Advice, they will likely provide you with a draft letter to give your lodger.

Good luck, keep us updated!

Charleygirl5 Sun 07-Jul-24 12:43:41

Regina sorry but your thread was unreadable as we all cannot read without reasonable paragraph breaks. I am sure I am not the only person who is partially sighted. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Stillstanding Sun 07-Jul-24 12:28:40

I have had many lodgers and most of them have been very good and I have been sorry to see them leave. Some still send me emails for Christmas and pop round of they are in the area.

A few have been awful and had to go.
Change the locks and throw his stuff out of the window.
Call the police if he objects.

He is a bully and is manipulating you horribly.

biglouis is right. He needs a punch.

If he makes the slightest move towards you that can be interpreted as violent in any way, physical or mental, call the police.

DamaskRose Sun 07-Jul-24 12:01:29

NotSpagetti is right, the police will attend to safeguard a vulnerable person if they can. I’m pretty confident our local police would do this. My son is 6ft3ins and broad shouldered, this has come in handy with an irate motorist and an ex-boyfriend of his sister - he literally just got out of his car/stood up. So a burly chap might just come in handy just by being there.
I wish you well OP, please come back and tell us how things go.

biglouis Sun 07-Jul-24 11:48:52

Do you have a burly male friend who could back you up? If not and he doesn’t leave on time

I was going to say exactly the same thing as GSM until I read her posting. I am sure she will tell you that from a legal point of view lodgers have few rights once you have ussued them with a written notice. However one or two male friends are always advisable to back you up and to "help" him pack. Does your grandsome have any big mates? They dont ned to be threatening - just to "be around".

I recently had a problem with a neighbour harassing me to rent out my drive and as soon as my nephew and his mate called at her door she became meek and mild. Her husband appeared and said "I dont want any trouble" and assured them that his wife would not be knocking on my door again.

Altyann Sun 07-Jul-24 11:38:46

As a lodger he has very few rights, give him his 28 day notice you don't need to do anything else.

deedeedum Sun 07-Jul-24 11:38:38

Legally I think you are a resident landlord. Therefore he has no rights at all. You are being bullied. If you are brave enough you can pack his bags, leave them on the doorstep ande change the locks.

Coolgran65 Fri 05-Jul-24 21:38:26

Oops.... writing

Coolgran65 Fri 05-Jul-24 21:38:08

To be sure did you give notice in wroting, dated and saying when he has to be out, and keep a copy.

NotSpaghetti Fri 05-Jul-24 16:15:17

Germanshepherdsmum

The police won’t get involved in a civil matter, which this is.

No, but they will attend, (unless emergencies crop up) if you say you are vulnerable and are afraid of a breach of the peace.

I helped someone remove a "squatting ex partner" just last year like this. The person I was helping was desperate to get their home back.

They had given them 3 months notice to find somewhere and a deposit for a flat (!) but this is how they eventually got them out...

Good luck. flowers

Wyllow3 Fri 05-Jul-24 15:20:01

It sounds like he is engaging in coercive behaviour, ie bullying, and it is then a police matter.

Best to keep a dated record of incidents and what's said before calling them in as proof. If you can manage, sound recordings on your mobile.

Ring 101, ask for community policing, they will talk to you, not and say you are afraid of your lodger, he is coercive and you are disabled.

(You can ask to be safeguarded as an adult by social services, this would take time, unless you are referred by a professional in which case it is almost immediate to get on the list)

Good idea to get friends family dropping in especially if they see anything worth reporting.