Hi I have a lodger who today I gave him 28 days notice to leave.he has asked me for a reason why he has to go so I said I'd like my house back and planning to move within the next 2 to 3 months to a sheltered accommodation due to my disability and need to start packing getting rid of stuff.He stated that 28 days isn't enough time and that I can use other room for storage.to be honest I want him gone asap he cooks late at night till early hours I can't get to sleep.he talks loud at night on speaker phone despite me telling him to lower it down.he interferes when I tell my granson off leaves stuff cooking on stove while going off to have a shower windows are shut kitchin full of steam have told him hundreds of times I do the telling off open windows when cooking but it doesn't seem to sink in his head.the last straw was he took my bottled water in his room plus helping himself to other stuff I csnt take anymore.the list goes on.1 time I was cooking he came in started cooking rather wait till I finished he carried on.i have the feeling he won't leave.i don't know what to do.he also told me his friend coming to stay for a week I told him he's not staying here but the lodger just went out without saying anything
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(61 Posts)I’m sure you need legal advice on this - what does his rental lease say? Personally, I’d make sure I’d given him notice in writing, then once his ‘time’ is up, I’d pack up his belongings for him to take, change the locks if necessary and refuse to accept any more rent.
You sound in quite a vulnerable position and I wonder if it’s worth having a word with a local Police Officer?
Is the lodger your grandson, or does your grandson also live with you?
What were the arrangements under which he came to live with you? Dod you have a proper contract or was it an informal arrangement.
Either way you sound quite vulnerable. Have you started to seek out sheltered accommodation for yourself? What do these people say- maybe you could move out sooner?
Do you own the property? Or is it rented? You don't really give enough details and this affects the actions you can take.
It sounds like this person is taking advantage of you and certainly needs to modify his behaviour.
You need to seek help on this one I'm afraid, but the lack of concrete info regarding your circumstances makes it difficult to know what to say.
It sounds to me like a coercive relationship. You need professional legal help. Maybe the CAB or Age Concern can advise in the first instance.
You have given him sufficient notice if he is only a lodger - and he shouldn’t have people staying with him unless that is within your arrangement.
I doubt he will leave easily. Do you have a burly male friend who could back you up? If not and he doesn’t leave on time, have the locks changed and put his possessions outside in bin bags whilst he’s out.
Agreed.
www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-home/ending-a-letting
is very clear on this
Ending a letting
How to end an excluded tenancy or licence
If your lodger is an excluded occupier, you only need to give them ‘reasonable notice’ to quit.
Usually this means the length of the rental payment period – so if your lodger pays rent weekly, you need to give 1 week’s notice. The notice does not have to be in writing.
You can then change the locks on your lodger’s rooms, even if they’ve left their belongings there. You must give their belongings back to them.
Your lodger is an excluded occupier is if:
•they live in your home
•you or a member of your family share a kitchen, bathroom or living room with them
As you share a kitchen he is an excluded occupier
Well he certainly seems to think he's the boss, doesn't he!
As you've given him 28 days that means you expect him to be out on a certain date.
Ring, or call into, your local police station and tell them you've given him notice to leave the premises on that date but you're worried he won't go or will create trouble and ask them if you can have a constable or 2 around to reiterate he goes - you should also give him a time to be ouf by so the police aren't hanging around all day. Be sure to let them know ASAP!!
I can't guarantee they'll be there, but they do try to help!
Also, tell your friends and family that he's moving out and gave someone there who can change your door locks for you - he may say he has given you his keys, but to be on the safe side have the locks changed!!!
Is there a friend or relative who could stay the first couple of nights in case he tries anything?
Put a notice to quit on his room door, too, so he knows you mean it.
I'd supply some binbags for his stuff.
The police and CAB can advise you!
The police won’t get involved in a civil matter, which this is.
I would contact Age UK and see if someone could come and help you on the last day... or if you belong to a church.. a church member.. it sounds as though you'll need some support in this situation..
Germanshepherdsmum
The police won’t get involved in a civil matter, which this is.
in my experience they will provide support to a vulnerable person who os being harassed, esp in her own home.
i would contact them on 101 asap, when he's out.
also age uk, cab etc.
good luck.
what about your GS's father, could he help enforce the notice to quit.
meanwhile, try to keep out of lodger's way, don't engage with him or discuss anything.
keep yourself to yourself.
if you can have supportive friends/family dropping in randomly, that would be good.
It sounds like he is engaging in coercive behaviour, ie bullying, and it is then a police matter.
Best to keep a dated record of incidents and what's said before calling them in as proof. If you can manage, sound recordings on your mobile.
Ring 101, ask for community policing, they will talk to you, not and say you are afraid of your lodger, he is coercive and you are disabled.
(You can ask to be safeguarded as an adult by social services, this would take time, unless you are referred by a professional in which case it is almost immediate to get on the list)
Good idea to get friends family dropping in especially if they see anything worth reporting.
Germanshepherdsmum
The police won’t get involved in a civil matter, which this is.
No, but they will attend, (unless emergencies crop up) if you say you are vulnerable and are afraid of a breach of the peace.
I helped someone remove a "squatting ex partner" just last year like this. The person I was helping was desperate to get their home back.
They had given them 3 months notice to find somewhere and a deposit for a flat (!) but this is how they eventually got them out...
Good luck. 
To be sure did you give notice in wroting, dated and saying when he has to be out, and keep a copy.
Oops.... writing
Legally I think you are a resident landlord. Therefore he has no rights at all. You are being bullied. If you are brave enough you can pack his bags, leave them on the doorstep ande change the locks.
As a lodger he has very few rights, give him his 28 day notice you don't need to do anything else.
Do you have a burly male friend who could back you up? If not and he doesn’t leave on time
I was going to say exactly the same thing as GSM until I read her posting. I am sure she will tell you that from a legal point of view lodgers have few rights once you have ussued them with a written notice. However one or two male friends are always advisable to back you up and to "help" him pack. Does your grandsome have any big mates? They dont ned to be threatening - just to "be around".
I recently had a problem with a neighbour harassing me to rent out my drive and as soon as my nephew and his mate called at her door she became meek and mild. Her husband appeared and said "I dont want any trouble" and assured them that his wife would not be knocking on my door again.
NotSpagetti is right, the police will attend to safeguard a vulnerable person if they can. I’m pretty confident our local police would do this. My son is 6ft3ins and broad shouldered, this has come in handy with an irate motorist and an ex-boyfriend of his sister - he literally just got out of his car/stood up. So a burly chap might just come in handy just by being there.
I wish you well OP, please come back and tell us how things go.
I have had many lodgers and most of them have been very good and I have been sorry to see them leave. Some still send me emails for Christmas and pop round of they are in the area.
A few have been awful and had to go.
Change the locks and throw his stuff out of the window.
Call the police if he objects.
He is a bully and is manipulating you horribly.
biglouis is right. He needs a punch.
If he makes the slightest move towards you that can be interpreted as violent in any way, physical or mental, call the police.
Regina sorry but your thread was unreadable as we all cannot read without reasonable paragraph breaks. I am sure I am not the only person who is partially sighted. Good luck with whatever you decide.
Understandable though it is, threatening violence is not the answer. If you are unsure of your position, email Citizens Advice, they will likely provide you with a draft letter to give your lodger.
Good luck, keep us updated!
Punctuation and sentences would have been a start Charleygirl!
I would pack his stuff up and leave it on the doorstep and change the locks.
Regina I think the advice of having another person with you is a very good one even better if you have a couple of blokes spare
I can totally understand you need him out he doesn’t sound a good lodger at all I have many in the past and they ve all been good as gold but this one sounds a cocky young man and not one you should be sharing your house with
Stick to the notice you ve give him and if he doesn’t go then yes ask for police help I m sure they will they are usually very helpful I had a break in once and the policeman went off and got hammer and nails and put some wood up to secure my broken window. (it was a while back so perhaps they re not as helpful now I don’t know) but don’t just leave it get advice and get help
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