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Friend on pension credits

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Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 10:17:25

I'm a bit cross. A woman I am friendly with claims Pension credits as her husband wasn't well enough to work. She is below pension age, and says it isn't worth her while to work. However, we all work until we drop.
She cleans for cash. Now I minded my own business in the past and bear it but this year, we will lose our winter payments while she will keep hers.

Callistemon213 Fri 02-Aug-24 10:20:51

She is below pension age

🤔 I'm confused.

Ilovecheese Fri 02-Aug-24 10:21:58

If she is below pension age, how can she get pension credit?

Ilovecheese Fri 02-Aug-24 10:22:29

Work til we drop?

pensionpat Fri 02-Aug-24 10:57:08

I agree about the lady’s age being a problem. Both partners need to be above SP age in order to receive Pension Credit

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 10:58:25

Her husband gets pension credits. He is of pensionable age, now, but was medically unfit before he hit 65. Nowadays, you're supposed to get Universal Credit.

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 10:59:15

I'm a bit bitter at the moment. Still working at 66.

Grandmabatty Fri 02-Aug-24 10:59:42

Well she isn't getting it, her husband is.

Aldom Fri 02-Aug-24 11:00:56

Sharina please supply more information regarding your friend and pension credits. Atm I am confused... Not of pensionable age??

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 11:01:53

I havbe not explained myself clearly. She is refusing to work, in case the pension credits are taken away, as it would push up her income, while she works cash in hand.

Aldom Fri 02-Aug-24 11:02:13

Sorry, crossed posts. smile

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 11:03:40

Her husband is the pensioner. She is not. They claim pension credits.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Aug-24 11:04:54

How does she get away with refusing to work?
Does she not have have appointments at the job centre?

Sycamore123 Fri 02-Aug-24 11:04:54

They won’t be on a fortune!

Cossy Fri 02-Aug-24 11:06:09

All claims to ANY benefit are financially assessed against strict criteria.

These are the current rules

“ As of 15 May 2019, mixed age couples are no longer able to choose whether they claim Universal Credit, Pension Credit or pension-age Housing Benefit. Instead, mixed age couples can only claim Universal Credit until they both reach State Pension age. April 2024”

Sometimes people are a bit confused as to which benefits they are actually receiving. Both UC and Pension Credits are means tested, so although it sounds wrong, and all who can work should work, in this case if he was medically retired she may well be his main carer.

Theexwife Fri 02-Aug-24 11:20:24

If she is just cleaning I doubt the amount she is earning would be enough to affect his pension credit. It does not sound as though they would be rich living like this.

Ilovecheese Fri 02-Aug-24 11:22:57

On one hand you say she refuses to work, then you say she works cash in hand. You don't sound as if you like this friend very much.

RosiesMaw2 Fri 02-Aug-24 11:29:25

Despite any rights and or wrongs and I do not know enough about the benefits system to comment even in general, if this friend is fiddling the system or, more kindly, exploiting it that is their business not yours. Cleaning is not going to earn her riches and “cash in hand” while illegal, is all too common in the black economy.
Move on.

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 11:37:50

No, she is not his carer. She just refuses to work.

Ziggy62 Fri 02-Aug-24 11:38:48

I have no idea how much this lady is earning cash in hand "just cleaning " but I do know that I am earning almost twice as much as a self employed cleaner (paying tax, insured, police checked) than I ever was as a NNEB Nursery Nurse having trained at college full time for 2 years and having over 30 years experience. So don't presume she's not making enough money to affect his/her benefits.
They may not be rich but nevertheless it is fraud and it is wrong and I have every sympathy with the OP

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 11:39:31

You're right. I'm just annoyed at how pensioners are having their winter heating taken away, while some people choose not to work. You're right. I will move on. I just needed a mini vent!

Sharina Fri 02-Aug-24 11:40:35

I don't like people who fiddle the system, when I have to pay taxes.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Aug-24 11:41:44

If your friend is on universal credit, then refusing to work won't be an option.

Perhaps she isn't claiming it, though.

mabon1 Fri 02-Aug-24 11:42:33

I know people who receive Pension Credit but they have many thousands savings, can afford to run a car, go to the cinema and have two holidays a year. My income is just over the limit so nowt for me.

MissAdventure Fri 02-Aug-24 11:43:57

I expect they've done that "ringfencing" with their savings.