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What is going to stop Putin ?

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NanKate Thu 28-Aug-25 21:37:57

He seems to be ramping up his murderous attacks day by day.

Trump makes lots of threats against Russia but never carries them out. Whenever asked for any action on the Ukraine/Russia War, he always says he will do something in 2 weeks, but again backs off.

It will be a travesty if Trump gets the Peace Prize.

David49 Mon 01-Sept-25 17:41:56

Jannipans

I agree with the assassination idea!
I also think that the ordinary Russian people have no idea of what is going on (only what Putin allows them to know) and would hope that if they could be made aware, they might vote in a normal human being instead of a malicious and cruel devil.

I’m pretty sure the Russian population know what is happening but also know the price of opposing Putin, he has control of the population by fear of punishment. Exactly the same in China and North Korea, you do not oppose the government if you value your liberty or even life, several other Asian countries are not much better.

We now see India turning to Russia and China in response to Trumps oil tariff, a big own goal in my view, China is of course reveling in the attention it’s getting, a big plus for them.

Jannipans Mon 01-Sept-25 13:36:17

I agree with the assassination idea!
I also think that the ordinary Russian people have no idea of what is going on (only what Putin allows them to know) and would hope that if they could be made aware, they might vote in a normal human being instead of a malicious and cruel devil.

Milest0ne Mon 01-Sept-25 00:40:57

Western leaders are learning how to interact with POTUS. Pandering to his ego. They are not learning how to interact with Putin. He has a personality consistent with his Judo involvement. i.e. never give in.
I hope Putin is stopped soon before he turns his sights to the Baltic states Russia once occupied as I have family there.

Ladyleftfieldlover Sun 31-Aug-25 20:07:40

Except death!

mabon2 Sun 31-Aug-25 18:52:29

Nothing will stop Putin

mulberry7 Sun 31-Aug-25 18:15:46

If Trump were gone, both Putin and Netanyahu would go also. That is the evil Trump is perpetrating.

Skodadoda Sun 31-Aug-25 17:37:05

MollyNew

Trump is too chummy with Putin and Netanyahu. It's pretty obvious they're doing deals behind closed doors to carve up various bits of the world whilst appearing to want peace. They just want to line their own pockets and fuel their own egos.

Got it in one @MollyNew

MargaretinNorthant Sun 31-Aug-25 17:23:44

Monica, that was my first thought too!

Skydancer Sun 31-Aug-25 17:04:31

ronib

Putin will stop when he has secured his goals. Zelensky gone from Ukraine and a smaller Ukraine. Plus NATO kept away from Ukraine. Trump can’t change Putin’s strategy.

Agree with this.

keepingquiet Sun 31-Aug-25 16:35:41

Maremia

History of Russia and Ukraine.
Ukraine agrees to give up its nuclear weapons in 1994, in return for a guarantee of peace by Russia and the USA.
How is that treaty going so far?

This is evidence that nuclear arms work as a deterrant.

It is also proof that neither Russia, nor the US with a President who knows nothing about history and adores Putin, are to be trusted at all.

Maremia Sun 31-Aug-25 16:22:17

History of Russia and Ukraine.
Ukraine agrees to give up its nuclear weapons in 1994, in return for a guarantee of peace by Russia and the USA.
How is that treaty going so far?

Etoile2701 Sun 31-Aug-25 16:18:16

I can't bear it.

Sueinkent Sun 31-Aug-25 15:56:18

The question is what is going to stop the US? They are now facilitating two wars and and a genocide. Get schooled: x.com/ricwe123/status/1961802294095229316?s=61

Flutterby345 Sun 31-Aug-25 15:01:37

olderme

The only measure that I can see is very,very severe economic sanctions that will devastate the Russian economy. People in Russia are already unhappy. Should the economy take a nose dive, there could be a real change in power . Alternatively, his obvious ill health could overtake him.

You have to be careful.with sanctions. Putin could get driven further into the arms of China.
The Russians are not of a European mindset. Think Ghengis Khan. At the time of Tianamen Square it emerged that it was impossible to translate into Chinese the concept of individual liberty. Different mindset. You probably can translate negotiate into Russian but their whole mindset is that they don't really. It seems from what I read that anyone who succeeds Putin will be more of the same. I can see no solution here.

Geordiegirl1 Sun 31-Aug-25 14:58:41

Ukraine has an army. Ukraine is being sent arms. Ukrainian refugees were welcomed. I hate comparisons but it seems to me that the situation in Palestine is infinitely worse and I despair of our leaders.

jude2006 Sun 31-Aug-25 14:41:46

Trump was an easy target for Putin, and I'm sure he has a lot of evidence against Trump that he is probably using to blackmail him.
The only thing to stop Putin would be his own death, but he has all the money in the world for the best medical care.
As regards Netanyahu, he does as he wants and has the backing of the Trump family to do so.
Only their age will be against them: all three should be in prison.

Menopauselbitch Sun 31-Aug-25 14:38:12

I believe people should go back quite a few years and read up on the history of Russia the Ukraine and NATO.

AuntieE Sun 31-Aug-25 14:32:12

A well-direct hand grenade might stop Putin, nothing else will.

madeleine45 Sun 31-Aug-25 14:16:31

I suggest that we invite them to a conference here in Ripon. The date will depend on when a geologist can predict the next sink hole appearing there!! What a great thought of Putin,Trump, Farage, Assad all sat there and suddenly disappearing. Ah ! a pipe dream of course, but at the moment things are just so bleak. We must support Ukraine in every way possible and hope for a special bug , similar to Covid that removes arrogant and big headed leaders, but doesn touch the rest of us!!

IOMGran Sun 31-Aug-25 14:15:07

Jeannied

I should be what is going to stop Zelensky. He doesn't want the war to stop. He is too busy money laundering and getting rich.

Ah yes, just replied to a comment by you on vaccines. You are wrong on this as well.

Graso Sun 31-Aug-25 14:08:33

M0nica

Assaination.

This!

suelld Sun 31-Aug-25 14:06:31

Jeannied

People don't realise that 30 Gain of function labs in Ukraine were wiped out by Putin. The type of labs that gave you covid.

Oh dear, please get some help, all these conspiracy theories have addled your brain.

suelld Sun 31-Aug-25 14:04:56

Jeannied

Really? We're you happy when Obama got it.

Well at least he tried… unlike the egregious Trump! ANYTHING Trump does is for himself and his own interests, he’s not really interested in ANYONE ELSE.

Jeannied Sun 31-Aug-25 14:03:34

People don't realise that 30 Gain of function labs in Ukraine were wiped out by Putin. The type of labs that gave you covid.

Jeannied Sun 31-Aug-25 14:01:52

OMG. You are delusional.