What is going to stop Putin ?

There is no way that Trump should get any prize let alone a Peace prize. The only prize he should be getting is for the biggest liar, racist, molester of women, never saying anything you can believe if it doesnt suit him, and of course greedily looking at other countries to see what he can try and steal.

Trump is too chummy with Putin and Netanyahu. It's pretty obvious they're doing deals behind closed doors to carve up various bits of the world whilst appearing to want peace. They just want to line their own pockets and fuel their own egos.

The only measure that I can see is very,very severe economic sanctions that will devastate the Russian economy. People in Russia are already unhappy. Should the economy take a nose dive, there could be a real change in power . Alternatively, his obvious ill health could overtake him.

I'm hopeful of this, too olderme. Although there is a tight hold on the media, there must be an awareness in the population that they are paying a high price for one man's megalomania. Perhaps this might be seen as an opportunity for a pretender to take over, with a plan to stop the bloodshed.

I had read that the King of Norway had quietly dropped Trump's name from the suggested list. However I don't know how accurate that is.
Putin won't stop until he dies.

Putin won’t stop until the west grows some and we have someone sane as President of USA.

Exactly the same with Netanyahu.

It isn’t looking very optimistic at the moment is it?

Trump has brought Putin out of the cold and back on the world stage.
This has given him a new impetus and status and it's bad news for Ukraine.
As Trump has caused more fighting and killing by being friendly with Putin and Netanyahu there's no way he should get the peace prize

It’s clear now that Ukraine is going to be a real test of Europe's resolve so far it’s been mostly talk. We have and the US have supplied then with mostly Cold War materials that would have been scrapped anyway, now it’s going to cost a lot if we are to defeat Putin.

Trump has decided that he’s not really interested who rules Ukraine, he wants an end to fighting, Zelensky wants a independant Ukraine in EU and NATO, while he has the support of Europe he will continue with that goal. To be brutally honest its well past time that Europe grasped the reality of the situation, are we really going to provide Ukraine with enough weapons to win on the battlefield and drive Russia back.

Putin is not going to give up his aim of Ukraine as his puppet state and he does not believe that Europe is capable of stopping him. So far we have done nothing to convince him otherwise.

Putin will stop when he has secured his goals. Zelensky gone from Ukraine and a smaller Ukraine. Plus NATO kept away from Ukraine. Trump can’t change Putin’s strategy.

It's horrible watching Putin's vicious attacks on Ukraine but it demonstrates that any peace has to safeguard Ukraine for the future or Putin will rearm and return again to take more territory. Unfortunately Trump is absolutely key to this and he seems to be Putin's poodle. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but it's makes me wonder?

The real question is whether Putin’s power and vision will last beyond his life I think. The same applies to Netanyahu and to Trump. So much of what is happening seems to be personality and ego driven, and those very strong leaders are all old, and not in good health. I’m not convinced that any of them are representative of their electorates, and what will happen when they are no longer around is an unknown.

The only one who has any chance of bringing Putin to heel is Trump by implementing severe sanctions to cripple Russia's economy, but he wont.

Casdon

The real question is whether Putin’s power and vision will last beyond his life I think. The same applies to Netanyahu and to Trump. So much of what is happening seems to be personality and ego driven, and those very strong leaders are all old, and not in good health. I’m not convinced that any of them are representative of their electorates, and what will happen when they are no longer around is an unknown.

Russia has no shortage of despots that will step into Putins shoes when he goes, while he has the support of China to buy his oil and other resources, that’s not likely to change China will increase the supply of technology to continue the war, if it is escalated, it suits China nicely to have Ukraine as a distraction for the west.

foxie48

It's horrible watching Putin's vicious attacks on Ukraine but it demonstrates that any peace has to safeguard Ukraine for the future or Putin will rearm and return again to take more territory. Unfortunately Trump is absolutely key to this and he seems to be Putin's poodle. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but it's makes me wonder?

Re- conspiracy theories.

I guess they are theories until actual evidence is produced.

I hope that journalists etc are digging away.

The same is said of Netanyahu and Oct 7th. Israeli media has long been suspicious of the way this was dealt with, particularly as Netanyahu knew of the plans months before.

That’s not my point David49. A despot can only rule if the people in their own country are compliant. It is personality driven. Putin may be succeeded by a clone - it’s highly unlikely Trump will be, which changes the dynamics again.

What also being forgotten is Putin’s obsession with getting back the states/land that composed the USSR. The next despot will almost have a different obsession.

Like Trump with his peace prize 😄😄

Assaination.

Putin has a number of dummies so assassination might be difficult.

ronib

Putin has a number of dummies so assassination might be difficult.

I read that there are six!
Even if Putin were gone a similar type would take over, just as Vance would if Trump were gone.Might be worse in fact🤔
Europe has to stand strong against Russia, it’s more than just for Ukraine’s sake.

The Russian economy is beginning to suffer from the protracted war. Remember Putin thought he cold take Kiev in days?
He didn't reckon on the resolve of the Ukrainians themselves, or on the united Europe that continues to support them.
I am sorry to say there will be no end to this war until either the Ukrainians surrender (not going to happen) or Putin finds a way out.

His way out will not be through Trump who is an idiot, or through any other so called 'peace' process. This invasion has cost Putin far more than he thought, but he isnt going to give way yet.

This war is no where near its end and could go on for decades...

Casdon

That’s not my point David49. A despot can only rule if the people in their own country are compliant. It is personality driven. Putin may be succeeded by a clone - it’s highly unlikely Trump will be, which changes the dynamics again.

The people dont have to be compliant it’s all about power Putins opposition have a habit of disappearing, China and North Korea the same, opposition is not permitted.

As for Trump, Ukraine is not important to the US, his priority is to stop the war, it’s now up to Europe to support Ukraine

Oh David, just look at history.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-54142487

David49

Casdon

That’s not my point David49. A despot can only rule if the people in their own country are compliant. It is personality driven. Putin may be succeeded by a clone - it’s highly unlikely Trump will be, which changes the dynamics again.

The people dont have to be compliant it’s all about power Putins opposition have a habit of disappearing, China and North Korea the same, opposition is not permitted.

As for Trump, Ukraine is not important to the US, his priority is to stop the war, it’s now up to Europe to support Ukraine

Trump's priority is to stop the war?
Maybe he thought he could just tell Putin to send his armies back?
Putin plays Trump for the fool he is, and has no desire to stop the war until he has achieved his objective, which is to occupy the whole of Ukraine.
I agree that Europe does have to step up and support Ukraine and begin to ignore Trump, as he hasn't a clue.
This though, will be very costly and will take years I'm afraid...

We all know that the only way that Putin and Netanyahu will come to heel is if trump does the right thing. He needs to stop sending arms to Israel and impose the toughest sanctions on Russia. But will he? He’s probably the most uneducated POTUS of recent times and has no decency, diplomacy or empathy. He also lies at a world class standard! Monica suggested assassination. Good idea Monica. We could put the dreaded Farage on the list too.