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Is Putin stringing along Trump AGAIN?

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NanKate Thu 16-Oct-25 19:29:05

If only Trump had seen Zelensky first before speaking to Putin and arranging a meeting in Hungary. In the meantime many more Ukraines will be killed and Russian soldiers too.

Putin knows how to play Trump to the detriment of Ukraine.

Zelensky won’t get the weapons he wants from the USA.

This can only end badly.

keepingquiet Thu 16-Oct-25 20:12:20

Yes, he is. However, Putin will also be watching carefully what is happening in the middle east, especially Iran.

We shall have to just wait and see...

Maremia Thu 16-Oct-25 21:10:14

Yes, but hasn't it been a very long 'two days' for Putin and his invasion plan.

Casdon Thu 16-Oct-25 21:14:59

I’m on the fence at the moment. I think Trump believes he’s wearing the invincibility cloak at the moment, and he will play hardball with Putin in Hungary - but where that will end up, I don’t know.

Kate1949 Thu 16-Oct-25 23:02:57

Yes

Grams2five Fri 17-Oct-25 03:33:17

Is the Pope Catholic? Of course he’s stringing him along and d course Trump will fall for it

Oreo Fri 17-Oct-25 06:47:40

Not so sure, Trump won’t want to look silly and he reads the news and SM like most people do so will be aware of all the ‘Putin leading DT on’ stuff.

M0nica Fri 17-Oct-25 09:00:49

Of course he is. He is a whily old fox, He is ex KGB who knows just how to play and out manouvre the steam roller that is Trump.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-Oct-25 09:15:49

Trump's already looking silly with his pronouncement that the war between Gaza and Israel is over, when the cease fire is hanging by a thread.

Putin's been stringing him along from day one because Trump's ego doesn't enable him to see he's being played.

keepingquiet Fri 17-Oct-25 09:26:44

Maybe his ego but also he isn't really very bright, is he?

Maremia Fri 17-Oct-25 10:23:49

Have you seen Trump with Putin? Did it ever look as if he was playing hardball?
Putin has decades of experience. Trump has sycophants, who tell him what he needs to hear, to get through the day.

Casdon Fri 17-Oct-25 10:28:55

I don’t know about that Maremia, I think there are some brains working in Trump’s team even if I don’t agree with a lot of their activities. I also think Russia is being seriously weakened by the war, they have lost over a million lives, trade embargo’s are biting, the economy is poor, and Putin is not universally popular as that worsens. It is in his interests to reach an agreement, for the interim at least.

windmill1 Fri 17-Oct-25 10:31:25

Yes, yes, yes! If ever there was an accomplished PuppetMaster it's Putin.

Trump will trip over his pompous ego because he's his own vanity project. He can't help himself and for sure he thinks schmoozing Netanyahu and pushing himself forward in the ceasefire negotiations makes him on a par with Jesus Christ.

Happygirl79 Sat 18-Oct-25 13:46:30

Grams2five

Is the Pope Catholic? Of course he’s stringing him along and d course Trump will fall for it

I agree.

knspol Sat 18-Oct-25 13:57:10

My first thought was that Putin is just stringing along Trump yet again and timing it very well to have a 2 hr conversation with him days before his timed meeting with Zelensky.
My second thought is that I'm glad Trump isn't just rushing into an outright world war situation. Maybe Trump actually realises what Putin is doing but feels it's always worth a try to talk with him??? Not sure I believe this, not sure Trump has the brain power to see Putin's actions for what they probably are.
Heaven help us all and especially the Ukranians.

suelld Sat 18-Oct-25 15:08:30

YES OF COURSE HE IS. Trump is unable to see through Putins flattery and likely offers of real estate, etc, once the war stops. He’s always on Putins side, he admires him!

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 15:15:48

Casdon, your post has given me hope, about Putin's weakness.

albertina Sat 18-Oct-25 15:27:41

Yes, he is his willing puppet

Alwaysworrying Sat 18-Oct-25 15:33:21

I am quietly pleased that Trump has not given in to requests for Tomahawks. We stand on the brink of World War 3 and there is always the nuclear threat hanging over us. I think when people get really desperate, they do desperate things and l don't trust either of these men not to escalate events to catastrophic levels, which using these weapons would surely provoke a terrible response.

mabon2 Sat 18-Oct-25 16:05:01

Yes he is as Trump is stringing along Zeleskyy of the Ukraine.

Suzieque66 Sat 18-Oct-25 16:18:49

YES its been quite obvious ..

Maremia Sat 18-Oct-25 17:22:33

I think Zelenski knows the score with Trump, especially after that disgrace of a hissy fit in the White House.
But, because he has to, will keep trying.
How amazing, that they have fought off everything thrown at them for the past how many years.

Dibbydod Sat 18-Oct-25 17:38:40

Trump has been making it very clear that he’d rather stop with war than to give Ukraine the tomahawks . He feels it’s worth another meeting with Putin to hopefully come to agreement to finish the war , as to supply Ukraine with those deadly weapons would only potentially make things worse. If one were to follow and listen to what Trump has been saying it does make a lot os sense

spabbygirl Sat 18-Oct-25 17:44:54

Alwaysworrying

I am quietly pleased that Trump has not given in to requests for Tomahawks. We stand on the brink of World War 3 and there is always the nuclear threat hanging over us. I think when people get really desperate, they do desperate things and l don't trust either of these men not to escalate events to catastrophic levels, which using these weapons would surely provoke a terrible response.

I agree Alwaysworrying, Trump seems unable to believe Putin won't be swayed by his charms.

mulberry7 Sat 18-Oct-25 20:26:30

Possibly Trump is being blackmailed by Putin. He was involved in so much odd stuff it probably wouldn't be hard to find something else he doesn't want exposed.