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The ghoulishness of Hallowe’en?

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MawBroon Sun 14-Oct-18 10:11:38

There was a letter in the DT yesterday from a woman who had recently lost her mother, saying she feels she cannot cope with the “ghoulish” imagery of Halloween.
Setting aside what I suspect most of us feel about the incredibly overdone Halloween “thing,” it got me thinking too.
OK it is all a bit of harmless fun for the kids, but the graveyard/skull/skeleton imagery is also very disturbing especially to the recently bereaved.
Graham Norton, the DT’s “agony uncle” gave this advice

Don’t focus on the morbid imagery and more ghoulish elements, listen instead to the excited screams of the children, their joy at dressing up, their laughter when they see their friends in costumes saying this is a reminder that life goes on.
I am sure he has a valid point, but this aspect of death (skeletons , ghouls, ghosties etc) is not one I am comfortable with dwelling on, nor I hope do the DGCs make that connection with the smiling loving Grandpa they have lost.
Any thoughts?

Grandma70s Tue 16-Oct-18 17:07:56

I’ve read much of this thread with a degree of surprise, because it has never occurred to me to equate skeletons etc wit the real people I know who have died. To me a person is not the body and bones, but the spirit, character and personality.

moggie57 Tue 16-Oct-18 17:03:51

thats all saints day.where you remember people who have died .all souls day ,not halloween

notanan2 Tue 16-Oct-18 15:41:21

.*but why celebrate evil spirits anyway.......*

It is celebrating the thinning of the veil. That covers ALL spirits and many christian denominations celebrate it as a month where the deceased can hear your prayers more clearly.

EllanVannin Tue 16-Oct-18 14:50:41

Some people don't need to wear masks, it's inbuilt ! You've only to look at the news/newspapers to see mugshots of criminals and the like. Enough to give you nightmares for a week. Who needs Halloween ? It's an everyday occurrence.

Anniebach Tue 16-Oct-18 14:46:02

Abundance of modesty and self deprecation, I like that Cheebacca , the oposite of blowing one’s own trumpet ?

Chewbacca Tue 16-Oct-18 14:33:49

And the abundance of modesty and self depreciation too, harrigran!

EllanVannin Tue 16-Oct-18 14:21:16

Do you live in Liverpool GabriellaG ?

harrigran Tue 16-Oct-18 14:20:59

I am afraid to comment on this subject with this superior intelligence policing the thread ??

Rufus2 Tue 16-Oct-18 13:50:38

Better to be a bit dim
Jalima; You're not dim; you're a livewire! shock

moggie57 Tue 16-Oct-18 13:25:11

every halloween ,we get it shoved in the face.yes i can see that kids want to dress up and get frighten away evil spirits with pumpkins etc...that bit is fun. what i dont like is that the kids in the uk treat halloween as a time they can run wild, throw eggs etc and fireworks on buses into people homes. and generally cause mayhem. they dress up with the most scariest masks that is not fun its down right evil.if halloween was like the do it in the usa yes it would be fun.. i been to usa and allowed my d to take part in a halloween walk about the neighbourhood,and get sweets/candy. people over their put pumkins etc on their porches and gardens and yes it looks nice and its a bit of fun.yes i am a christian lady and i work voluntary for salvation army. but put aside that/ .i dont think halloween should be celebrated...........in a way its inviting evil in not out......and going begging around peoples doors is asking for trouble.. yes i know an adult usually accompanies them...but why celebrate evil spirits anyway.......

grannyqueenie Tue 16-Oct-18 10:35:53

grin

annodomini Tue 16-Oct-18 10:05:07

Oh, GrannyQ, how could I forget toffee apples? No wonder I have a history of dodgy teeth!

maddyone Tue 16-Oct-18 09:55:48

And a further unpleasant post, particularly with reference to ‘brown nose’, in poor taste and rather vulgar.

maddyone Tue 16-Oct-18 09:52:31

GabriellaG, and no obvious reason to claim to be more intelligent than the rest of the Gransnetters.

maddyone Tue 16-Oct-18 09:50:40

GabriellaG, much as I thought then!

MawBroon Tue 16-Oct-18 09:27:08

Depending on shape and size .....I’d rather not say blushgrin

ditzyme Tue 16-Oct-18 09:24:21

I'm a real Victor Meldrew when it comes to Hallowe'en I'm afraid. The gory aspect is taken too far, it can be disturbing for young children, and let's not forget the elderly who get plagued by children, or in many cases teens with no sense of respect, banging on their door. All good fun for children to dress up - often in cheap costumes from certain supermarket chains which could possibly catch fire easily - and to see decorated pumpkins is fun too, but that's where the line should be drawn. But as long as businesses are making money out of the ghoulish side of this event, it will continue. As a side note, Sainsburys are offering black carrots, called.... Witch's Noses!!! Whatever next.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Tue 16-Oct-18 08:59:44

I can understand this. Halloween is just another commercialised and overdone festival now - dare I say like Easter and Christmas - a chance for the shops to make more profit.
As for the skulls - I've never understood the attraction of these and I speak as a 'rock chick' (hate that phrase).

MawBroon Tue 16-Oct-18 08:56:08

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRVX9F4fuYU
gringrin


However to end on a more cheerful note....

GabriellaG Tue 16-Oct-18 00:47:29

...and you may be quite certain that I could, would and will never be accused of brown-nosing, unlike some I could name.

GabriellaG Tue 16-Oct-18 00:44:10

maddyone
I have no intention of answering your enquiry but I will tell you that my blood group is O pos and my shoe size is 6.5/7. grin
BTW, diplomacy and truth are not comfortable bedfellows.

Chewbacca Tue 16-Oct-18 00:41:19

Oh GabriellaG shakes head slowly

muffinthemoo Tue 16-Oct-18 00:40:21

Please ladies, can we not play degree poker? It always ends with feathers ruffled on all sides.

Maw you are perfectly entitled to your feelings, and I hope your heart is not too troubled with sad thoughts rather than happy memories at this time of year.

GabriellaG Tue 16-Oct-18 00:37:21

The above is to maddyone

GabriellaG Tue 16-Oct-18 00:35:46

I said THE MAJORITY, not ALL.
Try being accurate, not ascribing to me, words that I did not write.