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Queen Elizabeth hosting the American President so soon after her recent bereavement

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IslandGranny Thu 03-Jun-21 18:33:30

I just heard in the news that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth is hosting the Bidens at Windsor castle this coming weekend. I just think it’s far to soon to expect her to do any sort of public duty. How can she be expected to make conversation or listen to other people, it’s too much for anyone in that situation. I remember not being able to function at any level after my husband died. I wasn’t safe to drive and goodness knows what rubbish I spoke to people. Emotionally you are all over the place. What if she feels sad and cries. For goodness sake it’s like some sort of torture putting her on show and expecting her to perform for those American Muppets who won’t appreciate her sacrifice anyway. I’m surprised Prince Charles hasn’t stepped in, he’s more than ready to do state occasions.!Surely her time of bereavement would be a year or so at least.

Newatthis Fri 04-Jun-21 11:44:11

So - I am a little confused over this as I thought the USA borders were still closed to UK citizens and vice versa (I haven't seen my daughter for 18 months, she lives in the USA and we're not permitted to travel) due to COVID. I know he is the president but is there one rule for one and one for another?

Riggie Fri 04-Jun-21 11:43:27

This is her job and it will all be highly organised.

HC30 Fri 04-Jun-21 11:38:43

Seriously American muppets?
After the the behaviour of Philip, Charles and Andrew you give the royal family high moral ground? Unelected royal family vs democratically elected president who has been open about his son's drug use....
Anyway more importantly why are they travelling...like Chatles and Camilla did to Greece when UK citizens cannot do so..?

icanhandthemback Fri 04-Jun-21 11:33:15

Despite not being elected, the Queen does her duty to the country better than any elected official but I doubt that she would host a visit by the Bidens if she wasn't up to it. However, this is a really important visit if Britain is hoping to negotiate a trade deal with America and win over President Biden to smooth the way.

nanaK54 Fri 04-Jun-21 11:25:35

It's time to put on make-up
It's time to light the lights
grin

jaylucy Fri 04-Jun-21 11:22:43

Duty or no duty. I can't see HM do anything she would not be comfortable with.
The Bidens are possibly the best for her to see - they too have experienced grief themselves.
People grieve differently in different ways and quite honestly, anyone that saw the tv coverage of when Prince Philip left the hospital that last time can only believe he was on borrowed time, so for some, the grieving would begin at that time.

Paperbackwriter Fri 04-Jun-21 11:18:08

It's all connected with the G7 thing so an ideal opportunity to entertain the Bidens without making it a full-on banquets-and-parades state visit.
I don't think the queen is likely to start blubbing when she's in company either! I mean, can you actually imagine her doing that? I get the impression she and the older royals find the idea of showing any emotion attention-seeking and rather vulgar.

Urmstongran Fri 04-Jun-21 11:16:45

It gave me a laugh too in the light of day. A silly post from me and I apologise for it.

Annsan Fri 04-Jun-21 11:06:35

She is a grownup woman and knows what she is doing!

Parsley3 Fri 04-Jun-21 08:55:14

Good heavens, surely the poster of the above pictures of ER and Trump doesn’t believe that the Queen actually said these words. It is common knowledge that her default position is “no comment”. Still, it gave me a laugh this morning.

Anniebach Fri 04-Jun-21 08:42:27

And we don’t have the worries she has

Pittcity Fri 04-Jun-21 08:40:48

The Bidens will make the visit easy. It will all be choreographed and they will follow the script.
They have had much personal tragedy in their lives and will know what to say.

As others have said it is the work that the Queen has done for almost 70 years and so she can be on automatic pilot. She has none of the domestic worries that we have.

hollysteers Thu 03-Jun-21 23:33:14

Prince Philip spent most of his time away from the Queen at Sandringham anyway before ill health and lockdown changed his plans to Windsor. Apparently his closest female friend was Penny Mountbatten, his carriage driving companion. The Queen was used to long periods without him and I don’t think he was the easiest person to have around. Not exactly Darby and Joan, although he was a great support through the years.
As mentioned before, it’s not as if she has to cope alone, without much help, as we might do.
The Queen is going to be a very very hard act to follow and I would not like to be in that person’s shoes.

Msida Thu 03-Jun-21 23:26:49

I have never seen her smile so mu h rece3!!

Callistemon Thu 03-Jun-21 23:22:04

That’s really weird in that, the things The Queen supposedly said about Trump sound just like they could have been written by Trump himself. Uncanny.

"It was a wonderful, wonderful thing she said; just truly beautiful, very very nice. I'm just like a son to her, and I just have great respect for her. And she loves me. I'm just lovable"

Lucca Thu 03-Jun-21 23:07:44

“ for those American Muppets who won’t appreciate her sacrifice anyway. ”

Well I’ve seen some prejudice on GN but this ?! Blimey.

Pots and kettles spring to mind,..

MayBee70 Thu 03-Jun-21 23:07:19

Urmstongran

Hmm. Unless HMTQ is a good actress she seemed to delight in Trump’s company when he visited!

That’s really weird in that, the things The Queen supposedly said about Trump sound just like they could have been written by Trump himself. Uncanny.

EllanVannin Thu 03-Jun-21 23:01:42

I'm sure that at 99 you'd anticipate death considering the man was ill Kim. The Queen isn't stupid and would have been prepared for any eventuality.

Talullah Thu 03-Jun-21 23:01:27

Luckygirl

Duty has been the theme of her life. It is possible that carrying on that habit of a lifetime is what is seeing her through.

Agreed, Luckygirl

As for Trump, I'll not forget the moment he lost his Queen.

www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/us/trump-walks-front-queen-elizabeth.html

Luckygirl Thu 03-Jun-21 22:54:07

Duty has been the theme of her life. It is possible that carrying on that habit of a lifetime is what is seeing her through.

maddyone Thu 03-Jun-21 22:43:43

I feel for her having to do this, but of course she may want to do it.

Callistemon Thu 03-Jun-21 22:34:35

But I think her smile reached her eyes & was genuine.

Of course. She's a professional who has had years of practice at smiling.

Urmstongran Thu 03-Jun-21 22:28:36

Yes I agree the quote was probably daft.
But I think her smile reached her eyes & was genuine.

Anyway.
Back to Biden....

Galaxy Thu 03-Jun-21 22:28:03

Yes I have done that smile many times.

Kim19 Thu 03-Jun-21 22:27:44

EV, do you really think that anticipating a prospective situation (death in this case) equates to the real thing? I'm not sure that is the case.