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Queen Elizabeth hosting the American President so soon after her recent bereavement

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IslandGranny Thu 03-Jun-21 18:33:30

I just heard in the news that Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth is hosting the Bidens at Windsor castle this coming weekend. I just think it’s far to soon to expect her to do any sort of public duty. How can she be expected to make conversation or listen to other people, it’s too much for anyone in that situation. I remember not being able to function at any level after my husband died. I wasn’t safe to drive and goodness knows what rubbish I spoke to people. Emotionally you are all over the place. What if she feels sad and cries. For goodness sake it’s like some sort of torture putting her on show and expecting her to perform for those American Muppets who won’t appreciate her sacrifice anyway. I’m surprised Prince Charles hasn’t stepped in, he’s more than ready to do state occasions.!Surely her time of bereavement would be a year or so at least.

Anniebach Tue 15-Jun-21 22:51:12

Her husband was very ill for sometime, we don’t know , quite possible he wanted to die, and the Queen has a very strong faith.

Atqui Tue 15-Jun-21 22:46:02

As one r two people have already said, I have never seen so many pictures of HM looking happy and relaxed as in recent days

MarjieM Tue 15-Jun-21 14:03:19

I’m in total awe. I can barely function six months on from my husband’s death.

ayokunmi1 Sat 05-Jun-21 10:59:03

Good for her dignity and grace.
What would you expect a weeping,distraught widow.
Death is a passage of life.How blessed she was to have had him for as long as she did.
Gratitude and grace is what would be expected.
Good on her.

Lovetopaint037 Sat 05-Jun-21 09:00:35

Doesn’t the Queen have to meet a real Muppet when she does her regular meetings with our chaotic PM. She is a strong person and intelligent enough to know what she wants to do.

Shropshirelass Sat 05-Jun-21 08:04:59

I am sure the Queen will want to have some normality in her life, she has been dedicated to her duties as our Queen and I think this will keep her going. The Bidens are very sympathetic people (it would have been a very different story had it been the Trumps!!). After my husband died at quite a young age I found that returning to work gave me something to focus on and some structure in my like, plus the support of people round me. Without this I would have been floundering around with daily life.

Sparky56 Sat 05-Jun-21 07:59:21

The first ones definitely a spoof - the queen would never voice a personal opinion like that!!! hmm

CAH65 Sat 05-Jun-21 03:23:29

Our Queen is a lovely person and is quite strong.

welbeck Sat 05-Jun-21 00:32:33

maybe that was what she regarded as a touch of humour ?
reminds me of the so-called banter in workplaces etc, where women and differing ethnicities were routinely insulted and belittled.
and expected not to react negatively to it.

Lucca Fri 04-Jun-21 21:12:02

crazygranny

Joe Biden has had more than his fair share of grief. His wife and daughter were killed in a car accident when he was in his thirties. He and his present wife lost a son to cancer only a few years ago. Biden is a man noted for his compassion and I doubt the queen's loss has escaped his attention. I am sure he will be the best possible head of state to spend time with.

Exactly.

I’d still like to know what Isalnd gran means by “American muppets “.........

Alegrias1 Fri 04-Jun-21 20:15:14

Calendargirl

Don’t think she will Alegrias (abdicate, that is).

Neither do I Calendargirl.

crazygranny Fri 04-Jun-21 20:05:12

Joe Biden has had more than his fair share of grief. His wife and daughter were killed in a car accident when he was in his thirties. He and his present wife lost a son to cancer only a few years ago. Biden is a man noted for his compassion and I doubt the queen's loss has escaped his attention. I am sure he will be the best possible head of state to spend time with.

Joesoap Fri 04-Jun-21 19:38:58

Her Majesty the Queen will always do her duty, I think she moarned Prince Phillp a long time ago.
She will love being able to do her duty as she has always done, and I am sure will genuinly enjoy the Bidens company, they seem such nice decent well mannered people, who will be perfect guests I am sure.

Fennel Fri 04-Jun-21 19:07:58

I'm so glad that most posters judge favourably. We need more of it.

Smileless2012 Fri 04-Jun-21 18:48:00

I don't think for one moment that she'd be doing this just because it's expected of her, and expected by whom? President Biden, the Government?

Sarnia Fri 04-Jun-21 18:42:18

Typical of our Queen and I bet she's pleased it's Biden.

Calendargirl Fri 04-Jun-21 18:07:39

Don’t think she will Alegrias (abdicate, that is).

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Jun-21 17:38:46

IslandGranny, I’m amazed at such a stupid and frankly insulting post. Our Queen isn’t the sort of person who ‘can’t be expected to make conversation or listen to other people’ or who might cry in public and has to have a year off. She is, and has been for almost 70 years, a consummate professional. She is a most gracious lady who fulfills her vow of lifelong service, putting her own feelings to one side as ever. In my own way I get that - I had to continue working as a solicitor (to keep a roof over my head and put food on the table) and looking after a young child regardless of my private sorrows, which I literally could not afford to indulge. No time off, get on with the job. So it makes me somewhat angry when I read a post from someone who simply ‘couldn’t function’. I judge no-one more harshly than I judge myself but I understand duty and responsibility on whatever level that may be. And it’s nothing short of disgraceful to call the Bidens ‘American muppets’. Joe Biden seems an honourable man who has suffered more than his fair share of grief but soldiered on. If you post again please think first and be a better judge of your audience.

Alegrias1 Fri 04-Jun-21 16:23:45

It is often said that the Queen said this at the time of her coronation, which is taken to imply that she vowed to stay Queen forever, never to abdicate. As greenlady01 pointed out, it was said in a speech from South Africa on the occasion of her 21st birthday.

So she wasn't vowing to stay Queen forever, she was vowing to serve forever. She may perhaps consider in the future that the best way to serve her country would be to abdicate.

MawBe Fri 04-Jun-21 16:04:12

You mean this one? tcrsmile

I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong

IslandGranny Fri 04-Jun-21 16:03:21

My post was about bereavement and I was concerned for the Queen being expected to go back to work so soon after losing her husband. It was my opinion, it was not a judgement on her capabilities or her sense of duty.
I’m sure such state visits are planned months in advance, I’m also sure the Queen would have been consulted about her involvement.
My mistake in making this thread was to express an opinion, albeit intended as natural concern and to add humour. I have enjoyed Gransnet up until today but did not realise how reading others personal attacks would upset me so much. So, as the dolphins say, “Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.”

Peff68 Fri 04-Jun-21 16:02:48

Callistemon ?

greenlady102 Fri 04-Jun-21 15:46:26

Alegrias1

Daisend1

Urmstongran
All part of the service isn't it?
Did not this wonderful lady, in her speech on becoming queen, state and I quote,
Be devoted to your service and the great imperial family to which we all belong?

No, she didn't.

I'm amazed how many people who consider themselves Royalists get this wrong.

it was on her 21st birthday broadcast www.royal.uk/21st-birthday-speech-21-april-1947

Alegrias1 Fri 04-Jun-21 15:42:49

Daisend1

Urmstongran
All part of the service isn't it?
Did not this wonderful lady, in her speech on becoming queen, state and I quote,
Be devoted to your service and the great imperial family to which we all belong?

No, she didn't.

I'm amazed how many people who consider themselves Royalists get this wrong.

Aepgirl Fri 04-Jun-21 15:38:27

I think our Queen is very happy to be hosting the Bidens, and I don’t suppose she will be on her own with them.

She’s a wonderful, strong woman who is an example to us all.