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KatGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 28-Jan-16 10:33:12

Nobody to call me Madam?

What's killing the traditional department store? Jane Tulloch shares her tale of the theatrical ambience and glitz of department stores in the late 1960s, and wonders what has happened to them.

Jane Tulloch

Nobody to call me Madam?

Posted on: Thu 28-Jan-16 10:33:12

(130 comments )

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"These shops did more than sell goods: they sold us on luxury and pleasure: they made us feel special."

Whatever happened to the good old fashioned department stores of yore? The ones where they called you madam and there were delicate little chairs at each counter for madam to perch on as she discussed her order with the attentive black-dressed assistant.

The ones where you could buy (and have delivered) anything from a pin to a grand piano with everything and anything else in between. Such department stores used to be found in every large town and city throughout the country. In Cardiff there was Howells, in Bradford Brown, Muff and Co, Manchester had Kendal Milne. London had several including Harrods of course, as well as Liberty’s, Whitely’s and Dickins and Jones.

A few, a brave few of these traditional department stores, do remain although almost as tourist attractions and tending to be owned by large overseas conglomerates rather than the families who used to own and run them.

I well remember the thrill of entering a large department store in Edinburgh: the door was swung wide for us by a uniformed commissionaire who touched his cap to my mother and gave every indication that she was known to him and her custom appreciated. She nodded regally. I was impressed. I was even more impressed when taken for a half term treat of lunch in the dining room of a large Glasgow department store. While we consumed our meal, beautiful models wandered coolly around the tables in a range of expensive outfits and elegantly displayed key features such as velvet lapels or fan pleated skirts for our awed pleasure. These shops did more than sell goods: they sold us on luxury and pleasure: they made us feel special.

We weren't allowed to sit down, forbidden to fold our arms and banned from saying “Can I help you?” to customers (too off-putting apparently.)


Often beautiful, these old shops were almost theatrical in ambience. It was only when I began to work in one as a summer job in the 1970s that I realised that there was very much a backstage and a front of house. I could see clearly that the assistants were performing a role for the public but also that they had stories of their own. Each department was a venue for a drama, each customer and staff member a potential audience or actor. Of course, this potential had already been spotted and used by the 1970s sitcom “Are you being served” but, with its focus purely on comedy, a great deal was overlooked.

We had such fun there despite what now seem incredibly outdated rules and regulations. We weren’t allowed to sit down, forbidden to fold our arms and banned from saying “Can I help you?” to customers (too off-putting apparently.) The senior sales assistants (but not us juniors) were on commission and earned a massive 1p in every £2.40! The January sales were a time to dread: just looking at the tidal wave of ladies intent on bargains rushing down the department towards us was terrifying. This was mitigated by the laughs we had: calling each other ridiculous names in front of customers without smiling, sabotaging tasteful displays, treasure hunts around departments, complicated April fools tricks, and other examples of youthful exuberance. I’m sure gransnetters have many similar tales as customers and staff.

Why did these lovely stores decline from the late 1960s to 70s? Was it because we were seduced away by the proliferation of “boutiques” for our trendy clothing? The explosion of very modern chain stores on our high streets? Were the old department stores too hopelessly difficult to update? Most likely a combination of all these in conjunction with the dire economic times prevailing.

I miss them now there is nowhere left to call me madam.

Jane's new book, Our Best Attention is published by Comely Back Publishing and is available from Amazon.

Post your comments below for a chance to win one of five copies of Our Best Attention.

By Jane Tulloch

Twitter: @JaneTulloch1

Jodygran Thu 24-Mar-16 09:28:46

I too have fond memories of department stores. I lived in central London so had many to choose from. Barkers and Derry and Toms in Kensington High Street, a great treat to have tea on the Derry.s Roof garden with its view over London (up till recently I know it was still there....but without the elegance of the 50s! With a pianist in the afternoon). And frequent visits to Harrods (of course still there, but last time I visited I left quickly)....it is hardly recognisable and the once lovely huge toy department, with its Rocking Horses, Board Games and Wendy Houses to play (quietly) in, is now a noisy arena of flashing lights, beeping toys - the usual selection..and disinterested sales assistants. My sister worked in the Harrod,s Library (long gone i think) and my greatest treat when back from school was to curl up behind her desk and see her greet "her" customers ( it was alphabetical, each letter of the Alphabet allocated to their own librarian, she had the Ms. They came and sat in a comfy chair and were recommended the best
books for them. Another world...we hardly even have libraries now either.

Jane10 Thu 24-Mar-16 09:41:07

Oh that sounds so civilised Jodygran. A library too. Sigh. I'd sort of hoped that Harrods and Liberty's were still nice places to go and be treated as valued customers. Oh well. Back to the online shopping!

HannahLoisLuke Thu 24-Mar-16 11:28:55

I remember the programme about the lion cub bought in Harrods by two young antique dealers. They used to take him to work at their shop and kept him in the basement. His name was Christian. When he became an adult they realised that they couldn't keep a lion as a pet and so, with the help of the Born Free Trust (I think) they took him to Kenya to be introduced to the wild. They visited him several times and he would greet them ecstatically until on a later visit about two years later he wasn't interested. I have the book and DVD of the story. Still brings tears to my eyes.

Sorry about the deviation from the thread on department stores. I remember the old fashioned ones too. And Wilma I remember Owen Owen in Coventry. Wondered where it had gone. I didn't realise it was now a Primark as I hardly ever go to Coventry even though I'm only about ten miles away.

Jane10 Thu 24-Mar-16 13:32:34

I've just read that McEwans of Perth has had to close its doors. 130 staff now out of work but more than that a whole way of shopping life gone. sad

varian Tue 26-Sep-17 13:46:50

I hope it's not too late to add to this thread. I've just read Jane's book "Our Best Attention" and thoroughly enjoyed it. I don't read much fiction as I've always had a lot of work related reading to do.

I am now on holiday and my ideal light reading material is a collection of short stories so each can be read between swimming, sightseeing and eating. Jane's book was ideal.

I well remember visits to the various department stores in Glasgow in the 1950s and early 60s. In Sauchiehall Street there was Pettigrew and Stevens, Copeland and Lye and Dalys (probably the most upmarket). In Argyll Street there was Lewis's and Arnott Simpson's (not quite so smart) and in Buchanan Street there was MacDonald's (which was also pretty smart). I think there was a House of Fraser somewhere but I can't remember where it was. Jane's creation Murray's struck a lot of bells. Very nostalgic.

I like the idea of each story being complete on it's own, yet relating to the same setting. It was good to set it in the early 70s as I think very few if any of these stores remain. Those that do still exist seem to be just brand franchises under one roof and we cannot now be assured of their " best attention".

Well done, Jane. I hope you will write another one.

Antonia Mon 01-Jan-18 21:20:54

One of my friends and I both had Saturday jobs - mine in Woolworths and hers in a well known luxury department store. A customer of hers, obviously wealthy, came to ask for a refund on an umbrella, which she duly got with no questions asked. It turned out that the store had not stocked that particular brand of umbrella for fifteen years!