Gransnet forums

Blogs

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 12-May-16 14:48:23

Why home schooling is better than school

Would you be happy to see your grandchildren home schooled? Author Vanessa Ronan was home schooled by her parents and maintains that it was the best, and most empowering, decision they could have taken.

Vanessa Ronan

Why home schooling is better than school

Posted on: Thu 12-May-16 14:48:23

(80 comments )

Lead photo

Is homeschooling better than normal school?

When I was little and other kids found out I was home schooled, the first thing they'd always ask was "Do you get to sleep in as late as you want?" Usually followed by the next question: "Can you go to school in your pyjamas?" Most of them were jealous I got to stay home all day. What they didn't seem to realise was, even though I was home, I was still working hard too!

My parents started home schooling my brother and me intending it only for a couple of years till we moved "someplace better". It didn't take long for us to move; in fact, we moved many times as I grew up, but we ended up home schooling all the way until college. My parents were both literature professors, so there was definitely a strong emphasis placed on our writing from a very young age. That being said though, my brother and I naturally gravitated more towards that side of our studies. Writing stories and poems was almost like a game for us, and we’d read and edit each other's work from a very young age. We lived in Patzcuaro, a colonial village in the mountains of central Mexico for two and a half years. I was nearly eight when we came back to Texas, but I remember clearly how my parents sat my brother and me down and asked us if we wanted to go to 'normal school'.

If one particular subject matter fascinated, we were allowed and encouraged to study it to the fullest of our capabilities. It is only as an adult that I have realised what a truly remarkable gift that was.


In many ways, home schooling kept learning fun. When we were little, we were given breaks throughout the day to play for 15 minutes while my mother prepared our next lesson. Or else, we would be rewarded with getting to read a storybook just for fun! We then would come back to our studies twice as attentive, excess energies exhausted, minds ready to absorb again.

Home schooling let me learn at my own pace. I started at four, completed third grade in three months, graduated high school when I had just turned sixteen. I think I would have gotten bored quite easily had I been forced to adhere to the pace and rules of a classroom at too young an age. Bullying was never really an issue for us, but, through sports and activities, we still had friends.

Of course (especially closer to college), there were government requirements of certain things we were expected to learn, certain tests we had to take, but, as we grew, by and large my parents empowered us to study what truly interested us. If one particular subject matter fascinated, we were allowed and encouraged to study it to the fullest of our capabilities. It is only as an adult that I have realised what a truly remarkable gift that was.

Our creativity was nurtured and empowered though home schooling. We were encouraged to be ourselves. We were taught to think for ourselves. And yes, sometimes we even got to go to school in our pyjamas.

Vanessa's book The Last Days of Summer is published by Penguin Ireland and is available now on Amazon.

By Vanessa Ronan

Twitter: @VRonan

LenaOan Tue 29-Mar-22 11:15:19

Message deleted by Gransnet. Here's a link to our Talk guidelines.

GMboxSMG2 Tue 22-Feb-22 15:58:49

Message deleted by Gransnet for breaking our forum guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

JessyPinky Tue 24-Nov-20 23:43:43

Message deleted by Gransnet for breaking our forum guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

Leticia Thu 19-May-16 13:35:46

Not exactly, granjura . Some who do it really well refuse inspections because they don't see why they need to be accountable to the state and they don't want any involvement.
I expect that the majority are doing a good job, it isn't something anyone would enter into lightly. However, it is open to abuse or simply incompetence, and children can slip through the net. They are safer if they started in school and de registered because the authorities are aware. If they never start school they are more or less invisible.
I think it an appalling example to set to a child if you shout through the letter box rather than have a civilised conversation!
I think Switzerland is too tough if they have to be a teacher but I do think that parents who wish to do it must be registered, and have to be seen with access to the children. If they won't do this then the home education option should be taken away from them.
However it should be consistent across all local authorities and they should be inspectors who are enthusiastic about home education.

granjura Thu 19-May-16 12:31:21

So it seems inspection is hit and miss- and that those who do it properly are inspected, and those who do it disastrously, do not! Makes sense ... not!

In parts of Switzerland where it is allowed- only qualified teachers are allowed to teach the children (not allowed in some C/Kantons at all- as where I live). I teach 3 French students who are musicians and homeschooled (secondary and post 16)- but they have to by Law follow the same curriculum and have the same exams as their peers- to ensure they have the same choices of further ed if they want to.

Leticia Thu 19-May-16 07:14:40

My friend who does it has the same- inspections, very friendly relationships durhamjen so perhaps you are unaware that you don't have to do this and there is little the inspector can do if they don't co operate. They have to rely on a written report. You seem to have common sense and perhaps it hasn't occurred to you that some families are hostile and shout 'go away' through the letter box. ( I am not making this up!)

durhamjen Wed 18-May-16 16:28:25

By the way, I have time to write this because his mother just picked him up ten minutes ago.

hildajenniJ Wed 18-May-16 16:28:17

I think my D would have taken the children out of school anyway. She has become so disenchanted with the whole system. She has a good Anthropology degree which she has never used as she became pregnant at 23, a year after leaving university. She has done loads of research, and sourced teaching materials and resources from Britain and the USA. The whole family are loving the experience.

durhamjen Wed 18-May-16 16:26:27

Letitia, I know what it says and what it does, because I teach my grandson at home and have done for over two years. We have had two inspections, looking at his work, talking to him and both his mum and me.
We have to show his work and planning. It makes it easier. The authority is happy at the way he is going, and why not. They gain from it. We buy all our own materials and get no financial help towards the costs of his schooling.

NotSpaghetti Wed 18-May-16 12:40:46

There seem to be lots of people on this forum who turn to home-ed when schools don't work for a particular child. I don't want those gransnetters who don't know about it to think that this is the only child it can work for.
My children (and grandchildren for that matter) are ordinary people and for our family it was a choice rather than a necessity.
You don't need to have special needs or be 'gifted' (oh how I hate that word) in any way to be educated at home.
Not drum banging here - just trying to clarify.

hildajenniJ Wed 18-May-16 11:43:15

My D is teaching her children at home. They have ASD's and found school baffling and difficult. GS1 is a different boy! He has far fewer "meltdowns" and us much happier. GD has just completed an English literature assignment on Romeo and Juliette set by my D. She did the key stage 3 test at the end and got it all correct, she is only 9. She loved the Shakespeare and worked one night until 8.30 on her assignment. My D is waiting for the local authority to do a visit, as the other mothers in the home ed. group they attend have all had inspections.

NotSpaghetti Wed 18-May-16 11:42:01

Since I homeschooled there have been changes which do relate to home-ed but in my view, the problem is not homeschooling per se as these children aren't being home educated. They are attending illegal schools.
As there are lots or regulations about setting up schools - even free schools, the effort should be put into finding these dangerous and illegal schools and closing them down (and bringing the adults to the courts).
The emphasis should be on those breaking the law - not those simply exercising their rights within the law.

Leticia Wed 18-May-16 07:20:49

It may say that on the local authority website but it doesn't actually work like that. They have to provide written evidence but they would have to have serious concerns to force a visit. They can't actually have serious concerns if they don't actually know what is going on. Serious concerns are more likely to do with physical neglect and reports to SS than what they are doing educationally.

Pamish Wed 18-May-16 00:42:11

The Indy report differs from the one in the Graun which says that the parents claim to be home schooling, then send them to these illegal 'schools'.

Inspectors would not get near them, they are surrounded by high fences and peep-holes. No-one gets past the door who's not in on the secret. And the inspectors have to speak the relevant language and understand the culture so are unlikely to be regular EWOs. The 'schools' know how to create the right paperwork to keep the pretense working, that the young people are based at home.

Home schooling can be brilliant for the right people but it can be cover for some corrupt practices. It's looking as if there are tens of thousands of young people involved, and to me it looks like child abuse.

I'm just wondering if drones could be a useful way of hopping over those fences?

durhamjen Tue 17-May-16 22:45:51

What could happen if home education is not meeting my child's needs?
The Local Authority will want to work in partnership with parents
to find a way forward.
Parents are under no duty to respond to invitations to give information about
the education they are providing but if, after receiving a reminder, they do not
an Education Welfare Officer will be asked to make contact. If it then appears that
parents are not providing an efficient and suitable education the School Attendance Order process will be commenced. This process can result in legal action which will enforce a parent to provide an efficient and suitable education, either by regular attendance at school or otherwise.
Issuing an attendance order is a last resort.

From my local authority website.
.

Leticia Tue 17-May-16 22:05:13

The local authorities have no authority to check up, families can refuse visits.

durhamjen Tue 17-May-16 20:23:53

Trisher, as an ex English teacher, I never joke about spelling!
If my grandson with ASD saw that he would be very puzzled.

Why is there always this misconception about homeschooling?
I have very detailed records for anyone to come and look at, and have had two inspections in less than two years.
If local authorities do not check up, that is their problem, not the problem of those doing the teaching.

durhamjen Tue 17-May-16 20:16:18

www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/thousands-of-hidden-children-in-suspected-illegal-schools-ofsted-warns-a7031831.html

No mention of homeschooling here, Pamish.
The reason it is happening is because the government has relaxed its hold on registered schools. The department has no idea what is going on. It's not to do with registered homeschooling.

Pamish Tue 17-May-16 17:59:19

There's no obligation to teach English. This can mean that those tasked with the (very occasional) inspections have to be drawn from the community involved and are often part of the same sect, they can't interview the student otherwise.

So, a national framework with minimum standards has to come in somewhere, especially for the most vulnerable young people eg those with major disabilities.

Leticia Tue 17-May-16 16:55:12

At the moment there is no monitoring and if the child is never registered for school they go completely unnoticed.
I think that anyone who home educates should have to register and have periodic checks. I expect it will come eventually, especially with today's news about the scale of unregistered teaching.

trisher Tue 17-May-16 12:19:37

dj you were joking about spelling Guardian weren't you? It is well known as the Grauniad because of the many spelling mistakes that once occurred in its editions.
It does seem that there are now so many ways of circumventing state schooling sometimes for doubtful motives that some form of stricter monitoring is needed.

Pamish Tue 17-May-16 11:59:36

PS Access courses could be an answer for those without out the necessary Level3 quals to go on to a degree-level course. They are for adults - used to be over 21's but now over 18s - in that grouping . A one-year course that covers many skills and is an L3 qualification in itself. This was the first teaching I did and I loved it, mostly 20-something women (some in their 40s) who had left school early or who had had disastrous schooling, also non-UK people who needed a local qual. It can be transformational. It has been hacked about and cut and the fees have been raised so it's a fraction of what it used to be but it still happens. Cut from 31 hours a week of teaching in the beginning to 12 hours now, so it's hard work. If a person can pass an Access course they will survive at university.

Pamish Tue 17-May-16 11:10:19

@dj, the news from yesterday was not about free schools etc, it was that parents claim to be home-schooling but because there is no monitoring, the offspring get no balanced education. They are based at home, the mothers don't work outside the home. They spend many hours every day in off-the-books religious buildings which have no fire inspections with unqualified unregistered 'teachers'. It's those places have have now got onto the radar, possibly because of the likes of me who have been trying to get our local politicians and LA workers to ACT instead of looking away because of fear of losing votes.

My concern is for the children.

As there is no necessity for children to be on any sort of register re their parents' choice of education, there's nothing to stop this happening. That's what needs sorting out.

rosesarered Tue 17-May-16 08:31:01

I would echo all that Leticia says in her posts.if children can cope with school, there are probably lots of life lessons that can be learned . For those on the autistic spectrum ( for example) home schooling may suit the child better ( although is very hard on the parent.)

durhamjen Mon 16-May-16 20:35:01

Only the biology and history teachers do not teach at A level.
Maybe we should set up a free school.
Hmmm, perhaps not.
Not a particularly talented family, just a lot of teachers.