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Etta and Otto and Russell and James - January (2015) book club

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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 15-Dec-14 10:44:28

Before we start on the mulled wine get bogged down in festive preparations, we thought we'd get the thread up and running for those who won a copy of Etta to chat about the book and add their thoughts and questions.

You can read more about the book/author here

Greenfinch Thu 01-Jan-15 10:35:13

I gave up on this book yesterday having struggled with it for a week. Reading the above comments I think I would have to agree. I will see if my local library will accept it.

cazthebookworm Thu 01-Jan-15 10:09:53

I gave it my best shot but found it very confusing and did not enjoy it I'm sorry to say. Backwards and forwards, fantasy, all so muddling, and I usually enjoy the style of writing that explores the character's past, Kate Atkinson for instance. I have donated my copy to my local library so it should reach a wide audience, and certainly there could be many who will enjoy the book. smile

eGJ Wed 31-Dec-14 12:35:59

Beautiful cover, but a pity about the contents! I struggled through this and although wartime Canada was interesting the whole book was disjointed and it confused me. Maybe that's the whole point grin. It is written in a fey manor but the characters Etta and Otto remained rather flat. I kept hoping all the way through that the characters would become more real and that I would figure out where fantasy left off and reality began, but the characters never fleshed out and the story never really jelled.

Not sure I can recommend this to my book group this time.

numberplease Tue 30-Dec-14 20:54:01

I`m so pleased that I`m not the only one to be confused about the ending, up until then I enjoyed it.

Kizzie Tue 30-Dec-14 19:18:20

Thank you for my copy ( it's a beautiful cover) . Just finished reading, but I couldn't help but compare it to'A Man Called Ove'

chloe1984 Tue 30-Dec-14 11:07:07

Thank you for my book which I have just finished reading. It took a while for me to get into it and am still wondering if I got the true meaning. I had to keep going back to affirm what I thought the author meant. Think I may have to reread it at some point. Have lent it to my daughter so will be interested to hear what she thinks of it.

harrigran Tue 30-Dec-14 10:50:05

I finished the book this morning and have to say it made very difficult reading.
I am assuming that one or perhaps all of the characters have dementia and they are all existing in their own world with memories of the old days.
I found the story to be disjointed and had to keep referring back to find which era I was in at that point. I continued to read because I thought there might be a good conclusion or even an explanation but sadly the author seems to have lost the plot.
I have read a few debut novels, recently, and they seem to be the result of creative writing courses rather than life experience.
I don't think any of my friends or relatives would enjoy this book either, sorry.

rocketstop Tue 30-Dec-14 09:19:09

Thank you for the book. I agree with other readers that it was quite like 'Harold Fry' in parts.
I really enjoyed reading it, I loved the characters and felt there was a lot of 'Meat on their bones'
I loved that 'James' the coyote had a dialogue, however when it got to the end, I felt cheated somehow as I could not grasp what the situation was.
I'm with' hollystone' here in that I thought it confusing as well. My brain was trying, REALLY trying to sort it out.Had Otto been killed in the war and he was a figment of Etta's dementia, or did Otto have dementia and he thought Etta was still alive but that she had gone on a long walk..but that theory doesn't add up either as other people throughout the story are recognising Etta and cheering her on.
Does Emma even know what happened, even though she wrote the story ?! Are we meant to be left wanting..or did we just not 'Get it'? I would like Emma to put us out of our misery and explain the ending!
All in all a good read right up to the end, and then a flatness as though my effort had been wasted !!

hollystone Mon 29-Dec-14 10:49:17

I have read this book, and thank you Gransnet much appreciated.
I thought the cover of the book was beautiful, when I settled down to read could not stop staring at it.
The book itself was not really my style of reading. I found the jumping around, and some of the things dropped in were not followed through, and a little confusing.
Poor Russel, he did not have much of a life did he? Just existed in their life. I felt sad for him.
I would have liked to have heard more stories about the family, and the area where they lived.
When I got to the end I thought it would all come together? but I ended just as confused.

My questions are:

Was Etta supposed to have Alzheimers or Dementia?

Was the book suggesting that the roles had reversed with Etta & Otto?
The fact that Otto was at War, all of his fear & adventures, whilst she pottered Baked, danced...
Then her turn? she walked for her freedom & adventure? whilst he pottered and found a new hobby of the Papier mache?
Both waiting in a different era?

carol810 Sun 28-Dec-14 12:27:02

I have finished my copy of the book and put a review on Goodreads as Carol Peace. I took quite a while to 'get' the story but it was worth the persistence untill the different voices gelled together.
Thank you Gransnet and Pengiun for the read.

joannapiano Sat 27-Dec-14 21:15:50

An interesting read, and I enjoyed learning about Canada during the War.
However, unlike Greenfingers, I didn't feel the story came together at the end. What happened to them?
I felt so sorry when James got his foot trapped-and what happened to him ? And was he real? (I realise he didn't really converse with Etta, that bit I understood.)

Greenfingers3 Sat 27-Dec-14 20:41:48

Thank you for the book, I enjoyed reading it, although at times I found it a bit hard to follow with the changing between the present and past, by the end I felt that the story all came together, and it was a fascinating read. You can see my review here https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1077679414

Milly Fri 26-Dec-14 23:49:42

Thank you Gransnet for starting 2015 with a free book. At first I thought I wasn't going to like it, the way it is written, which made me feel slightly depressed, and also the jumping back and forth in time, but I couldn't look a free gift horse in the mouth and so I persevered and now I am half way through and getting into it and enjoying it.

One of thing things I like is her age, its so nice to read of women near my age not young people all the time, but like some of the others I also felt it was a female Canadian version of Harold Fry. I hope there isn't a sting in the tale, some nasty twist at the end.

matson Wed 24-Dec-14 15:29:26

I have just finished this book and sadly the inside of the book is not as interesting as the outside, I found it very confusing, and I think I have totally missed the "gist " if there was one ! May need to re read it again.

alex57currie Wed 24-Dec-14 15:08:26

CariGransnet Thank you. I'll leave it for a couple of weeks, and let the theme roll around a bit.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 24-Dec-14 11:41:10

alex57currie

I found it enchanting, even although I was confused at times. I have this habit of slipping into protagonist mode. This time I did so with a soft Canadian burr. I even thought of my longtime hubby as Otto, and he looked at me strangely. Yes I am an odd ball. Have spent the whole of my life swimming upstream. So what happens next? Is there a time in the not to distant future when our opinion is asked?

Hi Alex

Yes do leave your comments and questions here on the thread and we will be sending them over to Emma towards the end of January

shysal Wed 24-Dec-14 10:56:09

I note that this was your debut novel. Do you plan to write another in the near furure?

shysal Wed 24-Dec-14 10:52:48

I finished this book in the bath at 5 a.m. today. I enjoyed it, and found it was easy to decide to read 'just one more page' many times before doing something more important! However I found the ending rather unsatisfactory, which did not please me, as I was left a bit up in the air! Were you in a hurry to reach a deadline for publication, therefore skimping on the final pages?

alex57currie Tue 23-Dec-14 21:46:35

I found it enchanting, even although I was confused at times. I have this habit of slipping into protagonist mode. This time I did so with a soft Canadian burr. I even thought of my longtime hubby as Otto, and he looked at me strangely. Yes I am an odd ball. Have spent the whole of my life swimming upstream. So what happens next? Is there a time in the not to distant future when our opinion is asked?

numberplease Tue 23-Dec-14 16:10:06

I enjoyed the book, but must confess to getting a little confused towards the end.

Gagagran Tue 23-Dec-14 09:03:00

I am struggling with this book and find the format quite disjointed. I have to consciously think what year we are in each time it changes, which I think makes for uncomfortable reading.

I do like the characters and the description of Canadian life but it is not a book I would re-read or even pass on to my book group friends. Sorry!

The question I would pose is:

Why choose this disjointed format for an interesting story?

coffecup Tue 23-Dec-14 08:57:42

received my copy and once i started reading i found i had to read on
i must admit at first the coming and going in time was a little confusing
but once i got to grips with the characters i found it better, what i
would have liked in the front of the book would have been a map of canada
as i think that would have helped with the distances and direction.

On the whole a well written book and quite thought provoking.

gma Sun 21-Dec-14 16:23:00

Couldn't resist starting Etta and Otto and Russell and James, the cover is so inviting. Really enjoying this lovely book. Looks like I will be wrapping Christmas presents all day tomorrow!!!!. I have pictures of all the characters in my head, cant put it down now!!!
Happy, healthy and peaceful Christmas Gransnetters one and all tchsmile

gillogg Sat 20-Dec-14 18:22:31

I am about halfway through this enjoyable book .I wouldn't normally have chosen this genre as I usually go for crime stuff but am loving the characters and the unusual way of writing.It took me a while to get used to the lack of speech marks, but once I worked that out, I began to understand it. Will try and finish this review later when we' ve finished with Christmas festivities!

EastEndGranny Sat 20-Dec-14 09:13:05

I was very pleased to receive a copy ( a very beautiful hard back copy)as the resume was intriguing. I am a few chapters in and am really enjoying the detail of Otto's early life. Many thanks.