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Books you have enjoyed by authors that gave failed to garner the recognition that some higher profile authors receive.

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TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 11:14:22

I'd like to nominate Amanda Craig, I've read three of her books which I think were superb, The Golden Rule, The Lie of the Land and Hearts and Minds. Similar themes to Jonathan Coe, state of the nation type of novels, but better than his imo.

Linda Grant is another author who I think has turned out some great novels, in particular We Had It So Good, Upstairs at The Party and The Dark Circle which dealt with the unusual subject of TB isolation units post war.

Any books you have loved by authors that fail to reach the best seller charts?

TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 11:15:24

gave of the title, shouldn't be there!

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sept-21 11:35:24

I think it is wrong to say that the authors failed.

Why use "failed to" rather than "did not"?

They wrote works, the works were published. The works are part of cultural history.

TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 11:40:34

Yes well "did not then" if you must be that pedantic. I wasn't trying to suggest that the author had failed just that they hadn't for whatever reason received the recognition that some very over hyped recent books have had.

ElderlyPerson Tue 28-Sept-21 11:50:33

I was not being pedantic.

There is no reason for the authors to be deemed to have failed.

Pedantry is dealing with trivia whilst avoiding significant issues.

Deeming an author a failure is not a trivial thing.

Ilovecheese Tue 28-Sept-21 12:04:19

Laurie Graham does not seem to have had the recognition I think she deserves.

Early Tue 28-Sept-21 12:06:31

Plenty TerriBull and too many names to list.

I tend to read all or most of the shortlisted books for literary prizes, the big and smaller awards. The choice of winner is a majority vote but still subjective. There are some terrific novels among the short (and long) lists but those names only make the news during the judging process and often get little publicity afterwards.

With so many books in publication it can be hard to choose so I also look out for reviews in literary magazines and newspaper reviews for lesser known writers. New Books magazine and Mslexia are good too for keeping track of new and emerging writers.

That isn't answering your question with any names but I do agree that some writers and books are incredibly over-hyped and are not that good imo. But it is all subjective.

Thanks for the heads up about Amanda Craig. I like Jonathan Coe so I shall look out for her books. I see that on Who Else Writes Like they list her with:

Domenica de Rosa
Janice Galloway
Jane Gardam
Laurie Graham
Christine Dwyer Hickey
A L Kennedy
Allison Pearson
Nicky Pellegrino
Amanda Prantera
Barbara Trapido

Would you agree?

TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 12:50:14

Domenica de Rosa, I do believe is better known under her nom de plume I've read all her Ruth Galloways and enjoyed those. I shall make a mental note of the rest of your list Early and look up some of your recommendations. Have read Allison Pearson.

Lucca Tue 28-Sept-21 12:53:45

ElderlyPerson

I was not being pedantic.

There is no reason for the authors to be deemed to have failed.

Pedantry is dealing with trivia whilst avoiding significant issues.

Deeming an author a failure is not a trivial thing.

Sorry but bees in bonnets spring to mind, EP. Please….stop censoring people’s use of language!

Lucca Tue 28-Sept-21 12:55:49

Useful thread, thanks ! I’ve enjoyed Jane Gardam’s books.

TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 13:17:40

Thanks Lucca, really just a thread to exchange recommendations for underrated authors, I didn't anticipate an argument would ensue shock

Early Tue 28-Sept-21 14:02:56

TerriBull

Domenica de Rosa, I do believe is better known under her nom de plume I've read all her Ruth Galloways and enjoyed those. I shall make a mental note of the rest of your list Early and look up some of your recommendations. Have read Allison Pearson.

Ah! Elly Griffiths.

For anyone who doesn't know about Who Else Writes Like? It's a database started in Oz and NZ I think, first published under the title in 1993, designed to help fiction readers who have read all the books by their favourite authors and are seeking new names to try. Of course, no author writes exactly like another, but the selection of alternatives provided here should help to narrow the choices from the hundreds of titles available. The basis for the initial selection of authors were those who were the most borrowed according to the lists compiled by the Registrar of Public Lending Right. These are supplemented with names suggested by a small team of volunteer advisors based in libraries in different parts of the United Kingdom and also in Australia. As a general rule the author should have had three novels published.

For Ellie Griffiths, they suggest:

Tasha Alexander
Harry Bingham
S J Bolton
M J Carter
Ann Cleeves
Eva Dolan
Jim Eldridge
Kate Ellis
Jessica Fellowes
Lucy Foley
Elizabeth George
Isabelle Grey
Mari Hannah
Elizabeth Haynes
Harriet Lane
Colette McBeth
Dervla McTiernan
Louise Penny
Leigh Russell
Jo Spain
Dana Stabenow
Charles Todd
Julie Wassmer

I'm not a huge reader of crime fiction but going back to your original point TerriBull, the only names I know on that list are Ann Cleeves (from the Vera Stanhope and Shetland novels) and Elizabeth George so do the others deserved better recognition or do crime fans know these writers already?

One thing I like particularly about Who Else Writes Like? is that they include titles and writers suitable for young adult readers who are in the process of 'crossing-over' from reading books appropriate for children to tackling adult novels. A good thing.

Lucca Tue 28-Sept-21 14:17:00

I think they have something similar on our library search

MayBeMaw Tue 28-Sept-21 15:49:53

ElderlyPerson

I was not being pedantic.

There is no reason for the authors to be deemed to have failed.

Pedantry is dealing with trivia whilst avoiding significant issues.

Deeming an author a failure is not a trivial thing.

This is daft.
“Did not reach” or “failed to reach” = same thing.
Nobody suggested they failed as such or that they were failures
I think somebody just likes the sound of their own voice.
FYI
pedantry
/ˈpɛd(ə)ntri/
noun
excessive concern with minor details and rules.
"to object to this is not mere pedantry"

grandMattie Tue 28-Sept-21 16:10:05

Love Barbara Trapido and Jane Gardam, who incidentally live up the road. She in her 90s now.

TerriBull Tue 28-Sept-21 16:55:01

To answer your question Early regarding crime, of course what we like to read is highly personal, and I've read some of the authors on the list your produced, certainly many of Ann Cleeves . My absolute number one writer of that genre, would be the late Ruth Rendell who died a couple of years ago, she also wrote under the name of Barbara Vine. She is greatly missed by me sad

Lucca Tue 28-Sept-21 17:00:27

Earlier this year I enjoyed a book called the enchanted April. By Elizabeth Von Armin.

Anyone read it or any of her books ?

Lucca Tue 28-Sept-21 17:01:35

Also Rules of Civility by Amor Towles.

Eloethan Tue 28-Sept-21 17:04:51

I agree that may writers are under appreciated in terms of media coverage.

As has already been said, I too would include Laurie Graham and Barbara Trapido.

I think Lesley Glaister, Kate Grenville, Lee Langley, Maggie Gee and Sheila Mackay are also very good writers.

Callistemon Tue 28-Sept-21 17:25:41

Thank you for this useful thread Terribull.

LadyGaGa Tue 28-Sept-21 17:36:54

Patrick Hamilton:
20 thousand streets under the sky
Slaves of solitude
He’s a known writer of the 1950’s but I think he seems to have missed out on the popularity and fame he deserves. 20 thousand …was made into a film after the war.

grandMattie Tue 28-Sept-21 17:43:01

Elizabeth Taylor
Barbara Pam

grandMattie Tue 28-Sept-21 17:43:14

Pym ?

Early Tue 28-Sept-21 18:31:02

grandMattie

Elizabeth Taylor
Barbara Pam

Great choices grandMattie Classic writers now all too often overlooked.

I'd like to add Madeleine St John, Elizabeth McCracken, Louise Doughty and, very excited because his latest book Cloud Cuckoo Land is published today and has just arrived, Anthony Doerr. His All The Light We Cannot See is a beautiful story.

grandMattie Tue 28-Sept-21 18:34:50

Dorothy Dunnett
Paul Gallico

I’m adding authors as I think of them…