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Deconolisation of literature curriculum

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GagaJo Wed 06-Apr-22 16:09:17

Replacing Jane Austin with Toni Morrison.

I 100% approve. Morrison is a wordsmith!

uk.news.yahoo.com/jane-austen-dropped-university-english-184211083.html

volver Thu 07-Apr-22 14:11:43

Don't know if he ever came to Scotland but he had a very weird idea of Scottish history...

Verisimilitude is not his strongest point. The prerogative of the playwright, I suppose.

Callistemon21 Thu 07-Apr-22 14:07:59

Macbeth lived 300 years before Bannockburn and the play was written 300 years after Bannockburn confused

By an Englishman!! shock
Not just English, from the English Midlands!
I wonder if he ever went to Scotland?

He probably never went to Italy either
Nor Athens

Namsnanny Thu 07-Apr-22 13:52:26

volver

Oh, okey doke, thanks Namsnanny.

If folk can get upset by daffodils, I'll reserve the right to get upset by references to Scottish witches wink

??

MaizieD Thu 07-Apr-22 13:25:24

Grandma70s

One of my sons had Pride and Prejudice as a GCSE set book. I don’t think he even read it.

Did he pass his GCSE?

Kalu Thu 07-Apr-22 13:13:42

Politely put Iam

Iam64 Thu 07-Apr-22 13:07:27

Good to see you’re enjoying being ‘controversial’ gaga

volver Thu 07-Apr-22 13:06:45

Oh, okey doke, thanks Namsnanny.

If folk can get upset by daffodils, I'll reserve the right to get upset by references to Scottish witches wink

Namsnanny Thu 07-Apr-22 13:03:44

volver

err...

Macbeth lived 300 years before Bannockburn and the play was written 300 years after Bannockburn. confused

Not quite sure what the quotation is meant to imply...?

Your digging too deep, looking for slights that arnt there volver.
I'm responding in kind to your jokey tone (...^maniacal laughter^). Not to anything Scottish, said or unsaid.
Sorry if you felt otherwise. It was just my sense of humour, getting it wrong again!!?

Kalu Thu 07-Apr-22 12:59:56

Namsnanny

volver

Aha, our plan for undermining the Anglo-speaking hierarchy is working! Near to the site of Bannockburn, too!!!

(Followed by maniacal laughter)

This is a joke, by the way.

Double double toil and trouble.....?‍♀️???

Only a wooden spoon is required by certain posters!

GagaJo Thu 07-Apr-22 12:55:23

Grandma70s

One of my sons had Pride and Prejudice as a GCSE set book. I don’t think he even read it.

Don't blame him. I had to read Kate Chopin's The Awakening for my undergrad. Didn't read all of that, either.

GagaJo Thu 07-Apr-22 12:54:14

I do happen to dislike Austen. I find her boring. Thank goodness I've never had to teach her. I've taught Dickens and I dislike him, too. Not that impressed with Macbeth either, although Lady M's ok.

I do like Anne Brontë, and love teaching The Merchant of Venice.

Personal taste I know, but Austen and the obsession with marriage ?. I know... social commentary, but still. Not for me.

annodomini Thu 07-Apr-22 12:53:05

James VI and VI James I and VI

annodomini Thu 07-Apr-22 12:51:47

volver, Exactly, Bannockburn is irrelevant to the Macbeth story. However, Shakespeare pays homage to James VI and VI. The witches' prophecy for Banquo is that he will be the progenitor of a 'line of kings', whereas Macbeth receives no such assurance. Thus, he is bent on destroying Banquo and his son, but Fleance escapes. The clear implication of the procession of kings is that James is the descendant of Banquo.

Grandma70s Thu 07-Apr-22 12:41:45

One of my sons had Pride and Prejudice as a GCSE set book. I don’t think he even read it.

volver Thu 07-Apr-22 12:35:32

err...

Macbeth lived 300 years before Bannockburn and the play was written 300 years after Bannockburn. confused

Not quite sure what the quotation is meant to imply...?

Namsnanny Thu 07-Apr-22 12:28:56

volver

Aha, our plan for undermining the Anglo-speaking hierarchy is working! Near to the site of Bannockburn, too!!!

(Followed by maniacal laughter)

This is a joke, by the way.

Double double toil and trouble.....?‍♀️???

MaizieD Thu 07-Apr-22 12:02:27

Did you really intend this thread to be a critique of Jane Austen, then, GagaJo? Nothing to do with manufactured culture wars fake news?

If so, I apologise for miscomprehending it.

Happy to critique...

MaizieD Thu 07-Apr-22 12:00:11

Coastpath

Half doors, daffodils and now Jane Austen.

This artificial culture wars thing really is grinding on like a particularly tedious am-dram pantomime. Why are we taken in and occupied by all this shizzle?

You say it so much better than I can, Coastpath ?

MaizieD Thu 07-Apr-22 11:57:20

GagaJo

Outburst?? LOL. If you think this is an outburst, I hate to think what you'd think of an actual outburst me! A little bit of a pearl clutch there, maybe MaizieD?

grin

Coastpath Thu 07-Apr-22 11:51:41

GagaJo

Boredom

So much real stuff going on though GagaJo. Nobody need be bored with the real news surely?

Parsley3 Thu 07-Apr-22 11:35:53

Urmstongran

Its more about virtue signalling and Scottish de-Anglicization.

Since I live within spitting distance of this virtue signalling, de-Anglicising university I can confirm that I have heard cries of “ Jings, crivens, help ma Boab! Freedom!!!!”

GagaJo Thu 07-Apr-22 11:24:42

Boredom

Coastpath Thu 07-Apr-22 11:12:44

Half doors, daffodils and now Jane Austen.

This artificial culture wars thing really is grinding on like a particularly tedious am-dram pantomime. Why are we taken in and occupied by all this shizzle?

GagaJo Thu 07-Apr-22 10:53:10

*outburst from me. ?.

I should really not use my phone to post on here. All thumbs obviously

GagaJo Thu 07-Apr-22 10:51:59

Outburst?? LOL. If you think this is an outburst, I hate to think what you'd think of an actual outburst me! A little bit of a pearl clutch there, maybe MaizieD?