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‘Spare’ by Prince Harry

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NanKate Thu 27-Oct-22 16:08:30

To be published in January. Oh dear ?

JaneJudge Sun 30-Oct-22 18:36:34

I thought Doria was just a normal woman who is now a yoga teacher who brought her daughter up as a single Mom. Surely that much is true.

I'm sure if Doria had been in prison her daughter would not have been allowed to marry Harry anyway

Why do people have to be horrible about her Mom? her Dad's elder children act outside of the law, surely the finger pointing should be there and considering Doria's family were historically owned by slave traders that in itself should give all your heads a wobble ffs

Grany Sun 30-Oct-22 18:45:50

tickingbird

Oh yes this has already been covered Volver. He spoke about people pulling back after pressure being brought to bear. He stands by every word. As he said “they know where I am if anyone wishes to bring the lawyers in”

Being wrong really does get to you doesn’t it?

I don't rate Tom Bower not a very honest writer

A biography about the Labour leader systematically distorts the truth writes Peter Oborne

Jeremy Corbyn and the truth about Tom Bower's book

www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/tom-bower-book-dangerous-hero-jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-truth

Lathyrus Sun 30-Oct-22 18:59:56

As Thomas Marke said “She had the salad bar, but she had the meal too.”

Obviously recollections vary😬

volver Sun 30-Oct-22 19:03:40

Ohh, I've been googling in the dull 30 minutes before Strictly.

Branson lost to Bower because Bower's side said that he published what his opinion was, and his opinion was honestly held. In other words, I thought it was true, I really did, m'lud

volver Sun 30-Oct-22 19:11:28

Lathyrus

As Thomas Marke said “She had the salad bar, but she had the meal too.”

Obviously recollections vary😬

Isn't that in the same article where he says she shouldn't call herself a Duchess. Even although she is, actually, a Duchess? And where he says he wants to take Harry on because Harry would just run away from him?

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm convinced.

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Oct-22 19:13:45

JaneJudge

I thought Doria was just a normal woman who is now a yoga teacher who brought her daughter up as a single Mom. Surely that much is true.

I'm sure if Doria had been in prison her daughter would not have been allowed to marry Harry anyway

Why do people have to be horrible about her Mom? her Dad's elder children act outside of the law, surely the finger pointing should be there and considering Doria's family were historically owned by slave traders that in itself should give all your heads a wobble ffs

I think she was a qualified social worker too.
She couldn't have worked as a social worker if she'd had a criminal record.

She always seems so dignified, a lovely woman.

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Oct-22 19:14:47

I'm not following the salads or bras references 🤔

But don't worry, please don't bother to explain, anyone.

Glorianny Sun 30-Oct-22 19:16:49

tickingbird

Volver
Sorry to disappoint you as I know you just hate to be wrong but it is you getting your information from untrustworthy sources. Not everything on Google is gospel you know.

As for Meghan’s mother being in prison? That’s something you’ve obviously found in whatever untrustworthy sources you get your information from. I have never said that or heard or read anything pertaining to it. However, I have found something on YouTube regarding the non lottery win but it won’t link on here for some reason so I shall quote Tom Bower - ”The end of 1990 was a good time for the Markles. Through hard work, Thomas was flush with money. Twenty six years later, to extract a payment from an eager journalist, Tom junior invented the story that his father had won $750,000 in the California State Lottery. There was no lottery ‘win’ but Thomas did give Tom Junior money to start a flower shop and bought Samantha a car. Meghan’s school fees were easily affordable for him.”

Tom Bower is meticulous with his research; I have read a few of his biographies and I know Richard Branson sued and lost and so did Robert Maxwell. His book ‘Revenge’ hasn’t attracted any lawyers from across the pond so far!

As for your claims, Glorianny I think you’ll find Wiki is being edited by people in possession of the facts. You claim Meghan’s parents split when she was 6 - wrong. It was when she was 2.

These untrustworthy sources eh? hmm

Actually I said they divorced when she was 6 which is true. They separated when she was 2.
Sometimes things take time.
Not particularly bothered if there was or wasn't a lottery win.
But I think 3 bankruptcy filings by your dad and 1 by your mum don't show that you had a financially secure middle class upbringing. They show a family unable to manage money well.

Callistemon21 Sun 30-Oct-22 19:16:52

Geordiegirl1

Smileless 2012 - but people aren’t talking about the book. No-one has read it yet! They might be talking about the fact that it exists but that’s not worth 20 pages. Most of the rest is snide speculation about two people that nobody on here knows! We don’t know them!

If you change your settings to 100 posts per page, it only runs to 6 pages, Geordiegirl1 wink

Lathyrus Sun 30-Oct-22 19:21:24

volver

Lathyrus

As Thomas Marke said “She had the salad bar, but she had the meal too.”

Obviously recollections vary😬

Isn't that in the same article where he says she shouldn't call herself a Duchess. Even although she is, actually, a Duchess? And where he says he wants to take Harry on because Harry would just run away from him?

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm convinced.

Oh well, I’ll just go on my own experience of taking family to eat in the Sizzler in the same period as the Markles would have been there.

I expect the Americans could eat till they dropped at the salad bar for 5 dollars and the Brits got given the menu that said

You could only have it if you bought the entree

My recollections don’t vary😬

volver Sun 30-Oct-22 19:23:51

Yes, I'm sure you're right Lathyrus. Everyone else is wrong, but you're right.

I always preferred Denny's. Great pancakes. Plus I'm a vegetarian. 😉

Glorianny Sun 30-Oct-22 19:27:37

As for the how well TM was doing in 1990. By 1991 he hd filed for bankruptcy
To start, Thomas Markle filed twice for bankruptcygrinnce in July 1991 and then again in February 1993. Interestingly, his July filing may have been dismissed in December of the same year since the later schedules don’t reflect it as being discharged. The bankruptcy in 1993 also took over four years to be discharged, which is usually only typical of a Chapter 13 filing or a very drawn out Chapter 7.

Iam64 Sun 30-Oct-22 20:08:39

I’m struggling to understand what is meant by ‘Meghan had a middle class upbringing’ .
I’m no expert, but I associate m.c in the way that’s suggested here, with financial and emotional stability. That’s miles away from meghan’s experience.
Thomas Markle’s other children are hardly paragons of virtue or stability. Meghan seems to have inherited/.benefitted from Doria’s genes and influence.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Oct-22 21:09:46

It appears that for some talking about a book that's not yet been published is worth 20 pages Geordiegirl, or a mere 6 if you do as suggested by Callistemon and change your settings to 100 posts per page.

lemsip Sun 30-Oct-22 21:14:59

this is meghan growing up . a nice

videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnUI5m70VU&t=4s

lemsip Sun 30-Oct-22 21:16:45

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnUI5m70VU&t=4s

home videos

hope this works

nadateturbe Sun 30-Oct-22 21:19:28

Geordiegirl is right.

We don’t know them!

M0nica Sun 30-Oct-22 21:30:32

How much do we know of anyone? We know what they want us to know, and I am not sure I like it.

Surely publishing a book all about yourself is asking, no, begging people, to talk about you and pass judgement of you.

Glorianny Sun 30-Oct-22 22:09:12

lemsip

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnUI5m70VU&t=4s

home videos

hope this works

Interesting that Thomas Markle claims he shot that video, and undoubtedly some of it is his, but in the middle is a section where she says she's not on good terms with her dad. Don't think he shot that.

nadateturbe Sun 30-Oct-22 22:25:39

Surely publishing a book all about yourself is asking, no, begging people, to talk about you and pass judgement of you.

No one has read it yet.

RVK1CR Mon 31-Oct-22 06:07:50

Charleygirl5

Harry will definitely regret this petty outburst because Charles has threatened to remove their titles and I doubt if they would like to become commoners like us, plain Mr and Mrs.

It would do him good to sample the real world. I'm tired of the pair of them, moaning, whinging and spending like there is no tomorrow. Hapless Hawwry should have found a normal grounded girl not a narcissist with a huge ego, she has just jumped on the bandwagon, all because she could not be top dog and have things her way. Charlie should remove all the titles and leave them to "build their life overseas", which may mean getting an actual job. I hope nobody buys his book "Woe is me'".

tickingbird Mon 31-Oct-22 06:34:54

volver

Ohh, I've been googling in the dull 30 minutes before Strictly.

Branson lost to Bower because Bower's side said that he published what his opinion was, and his opinion was honestly held. In other words, I thought it was true, I really did, m'lud

Like Meghan and ‘her truth’ grin

tickingbird Mon 31-Oct-22 06:44:27

Glorianny

Winning the lottery being well documented, declaring bankruptcy 3 times, then twice, then once plus Doris filing for bankruptcy? Which is it?

Maybe explains why Meghan is intent on accumulating vast wealth. That or she’s just greedy!

tickingbird Mon 31-Oct-22 07:16:57

Doria

Elegran Mon 31-Oct-22 08:36:18

RVK1CR "Charlie should remove all his titles" but he can't. Once given, his title can only be removed by an Act of Parliament and a lot of hooha.
This has been said umpteen times on this thread.